Post by beth on Jun 24, 2005 15:20:03 GMT -5
Babysis, honey, grow up. Really grow up. Because even Jesus himself got tough with people, especially when they needed it. Now I know what it is your going to say. but your not Jesus. Your right, Im not, but Jesus is the example we are all to follow. Now if jesus said that I will be able to do all that He did, then I guess that means ..... what babysis?
How many times did Jesus call the Pharasees hypocrites? Did he or did he not call them a generation of vipers? How many hard lessons did he smack them up side the head with? And I do mean a smack down in the verbal sense.
How many times in the Bible has the apostles came down pretty hard on a few people places and things in the Bible huh?
You THINK my tone is hate filled and bitter, but that is just what YOU THINK. Do you say that to everyone who doesn't think and act in the manner in which YOU think best?
Did you say that kind of stuff to your mom and dad when they were getting on to you for something that you had done wrong? Id bet dollars to pesos you did. And I know it didn't work with them, and its not gonna work with me.
You think getting told the plain truth in a matter of fact way is mean, and cruel, gees would you have problems dealing with the people I do.
Im behind a screen typing, and you can read into it whatever you think you hear. That is the down side to the message boards. You strike me as one of those people who can't handle the tough stuff. Not that that is a bad thing, we need your kind too. But just as we need your kind, someone has to do what I do. And that is the ability to get tough and stay tough for the long haul. Its called tough love Babysis. I deal with drug addicts, and others who have hit rock bottom in life, I deal with alot of degenerate people, sorry if I see one in traf.
And what your still not getting is this. Being sweet and nice and lovey dovey sometimes just doesn't get the job done.
You are right, I don't like traf, not one bit, I have happened to see nothing likeable about him whatsoever, but as Christ commands I do love him.
But no, he is not a Christian, he doesn't support Christian beliefs, in fact he doesn't even get Christiantiy itself. Why? Because he is not a Christian. And you can argue to the opposite all day long, the Spirit just doesn't bear witness IN MY SOUL that that man is my Brother in Christ.
quote from babysis,
Also, I don't understand how you don't get that God could have used evolution. How does God using evolution take God out of the picture. When you claim a "person" used something that "person" can't magically disappear.
Your nonesense, and yes it is nonesense, is exactly what is wrong with liberal Christians. You can't have it both ways babysis, its just not going to work. Evolution is a THEORY ONLY. And whether or not traf likes the fact is irrelevant. There is just not enough evidence to support anything other than a wait and see mindset. The fact is we don't even have 1/1000th of the evidence we need, and I have expressed that to him before and recieved a healthy does of disdain from him. And that is REALITY, whether you and traf want to accept it or not.
And who are we to say what God can or can't do? Who is traf to put ANY limitaions on God? And just where does traf ,and you for that matter, get off thinking we know anything about anything? Trust me, we will ALL find out the truth when we get to heaven. AND NOT UNTIL THEN.
I have talked kinder to traf, but being the person he is, he doesn't hear it, all he hears is his religion being denied. I don't really care what you think of this, but traf is a control freak. I have suggested to him on more than a few occasions that he just drop the topic and let people alone with their beliefs, but you know what? He said himself he couldn't do that. Why don't YOU ask HIM why. And I know your not going to believe me, but I don't care, look it up for yourself, in the Interpretaion of Genesis thread.
You say your insulted by my "tone" with traf, babysis, that is just your problem. Not to be mean, but that is a personal problem for you. Where and when have you said the same exact things to traf? Hummm? You have no trouble whatsoever talking your talk to people like me, but what about traf, huh? He has been a real rude, arrogant, condescending jerk, and YOU have said nothing public to him, like you have to me. And all I have done is give him the same treatment HE has given other people. As a matter of fact, to be honest babysis, I have treated HIM better than he has treated others.
What I see is this, you two are friends, good for you guys, everybody needs freinds, but don't stick up for your friends character flaws, you just might be interferring with Gods work yourself.
Whether one likes the "tone" it is delivered in or not is irrelevant. Discipline and love go hand in hand.
How many times did Jesus call the Pharasees hypocrites? Did he or did he not call them a generation of vipers? How many hard lessons did he smack them up side the head with? And I do mean a smack down in the verbal sense.
How many times in the Bible has the apostles came down pretty hard on a few people places and things in the Bible huh?
You THINK my tone is hate filled and bitter, but that is just what YOU THINK. Do you say that to everyone who doesn't think and act in the manner in which YOU think best?
Did you say that kind of stuff to your mom and dad when they were getting on to you for something that you had done wrong? Id bet dollars to pesos you did. And I know it didn't work with them, and its not gonna work with me.
You think getting told the plain truth in a matter of fact way is mean, and cruel, gees would you have problems dealing with the people I do.
Im behind a screen typing, and you can read into it whatever you think you hear. That is the down side to the message boards. You strike me as one of those people who can't handle the tough stuff. Not that that is a bad thing, we need your kind too. But just as we need your kind, someone has to do what I do. And that is the ability to get tough and stay tough for the long haul. Its called tough love Babysis. I deal with drug addicts, and others who have hit rock bottom in life, I deal with alot of degenerate people, sorry if I see one in traf.
And what your still not getting is this. Being sweet and nice and lovey dovey sometimes just doesn't get the job done.
You are right, I don't like traf, not one bit, I have happened to see nothing likeable about him whatsoever, but as Christ commands I do love him.
But no, he is not a Christian, he doesn't support Christian beliefs, in fact he doesn't even get Christiantiy itself. Why? Because he is not a Christian. And you can argue to the opposite all day long, the Spirit just doesn't bear witness IN MY SOUL that that man is my Brother in Christ.
quote from babysis,
Also, I don't understand how you don't get that God could have used evolution. How does God using evolution take God out of the picture. When you claim a "person" used something that "person" can't magically disappear.
Your nonesense, and yes it is nonesense, is exactly what is wrong with liberal Christians. You can't have it both ways babysis, its just not going to work. Evolution is a THEORY ONLY. And whether or not traf likes the fact is irrelevant. There is just not enough evidence to support anything other than a wait and see mindset. The fact is we don't even have 1/1000th of the evidence we need, and I have expressed that to him before and recieved a healthy does of disdain from him. And that is REALITY, whether you and traf want to accept it or not.
And who are we to say what God can or can't do? Who is traf to put ANY limitaions on God? And just where does traf ,and you for that matter, get off thinking we know anything about anything? Trust me, we will ALL find out the truth when we get to heaven. AND NOT UNTIL THEN.
I have talked kinder to traf, but being the person he is, he doesn't hear it, all he hears is his religion being denied. I don't really care what you think of this, but traf is a control freak. I have suggested to him on more than a few occasions that he just drop the topic and let people alone with their beliefs, but you know what? He said himself he couldn't do that. Why don't YOU ask HIM why. And I know your not going to believe me, but I don't care, look it up for yourself, in the Interpretaion of Genesis thread.
You say your insulted by my "tone" with traf, babysis, that is just your problem. Not to be mean, but that is a personal problem for you. Where and when have you said the same exact things to traf? Hummm? You have no trouble whatsoever talking your talk to people like me, but what about traf, huh? He has been a real rude, arrogant, condescending jerk, and YOU have said nothing public to him, like you have to me. And all I have done is give him the same treatment HE has given other people. As a matter of fact, to be honest babysis, I have treated HIM better than he has treated others.
What I see is this, you two are friends, good for you guys, everybody needs freinds, but don't stick up for your friends character flaws, you just might be interferring with Gods work yourself.
Whether one likes the "tone" it is delivered in or not is irrelevant. Discipline and love go hand in hand.