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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 4, 2004 11:22:12 GMT -5
Yawn, wake me up when you have taken the time to learn physics before you start telling everyone that. What you're really saying is: "I don't have all the answers". I know someone who does - His name is Jesus Christ. Christian.
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Post by TarueBeliever on Nov 4, 2004 13:16:58 GMT -5
The Apostle Paul wrote ...
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
In this pkmtyolpage, in clear words, Paul says that it is through their resurrection that the dead will always be with Christ. He does not say it is by first going to Heaven.
Scott
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Post by Traffic Demon on Nov 4, 2004 22:42:11 GMT -5
I2AM4AndyChristianOmega7-11 - "What you're really saying is: 'I don't have all the answers'."
No, I believe what he's saying is that you haven't shown the slightest understanding where physics or any other branch of science is concerned.
--Live. Love. Traf Swordchucks, yo
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 5:31:33 GMT -5
I2AM4AndyChristianOmega7-11 - "What you're really saying is: 'I don't have all the answers'."No, I believe what he's saying is that you haven't shown the slightest understanding where physics or any other branch of science is concerned. --Live. Love. Traf Swordchucks, yo And this coming from a man who believes that we are monkeys, and that it's theoretically possible to travel back in Time! No-one can truthfully claim to know what the conditions were like before God created everything, except for God Himself. Also, someone once told me that there are scientists who actually doubt that the dimension of Time exists. Sometimes not even the "experts" know what they're talking about! Christian.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 7:26:43 GMT -5
I see that you still haven't grasped that my new username is "7-911-7-321-7", and that my name on these boards is now "Christian". Why is it so difficult for you? Christian.
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Post by Traffic Demon on Nov 5, 2004 8:10:57 GMT -5
I2AM4AndyChristianOmega7-11 - "And this coming from a man who believes that we are monkeys"
No, I don't, and neither does any other scientist. I have stated countless times that we are not monkeys, and not descended from monkeys, but share a common ancestry with them. Remember that bit about you not having the slightest understanding of science? It's showing again.
"and that it's theoretically possible to travel back in Time!"
Because the work of Hawking et al. has shown this to be the case. The only thing you have contradicting their findings is your oh-so credible word saying it's not possible.
"Also, someone once told me that there are scientists who actually doubt that the dimension of Time exists."
You've got to be kidding. Your evidence against science is that somebody once told you that some unnamed scientists don't believe something? Do you have any concept of how to logically support a claim?
"I see that you still haven't grasped that my new username is '7-911-7-321-7', and that my name on these boards is now 'Christian'. Why is it so difficult for you?"
We've covered this already. Please try to keep up.
--Big Daddy Traf Strong like bull
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Post by stevec on Nov 5, 2004 8:14:35 GMT -5
I2AM4AndyChristianOmega7-11 I see that you still haven't grasped that my new username is "7-911-7-321-7", and that my name on these boards is now "Christian". Why is it so difficult for you? I think he grasps it all to well--your reputation precedes your account changes (which are suspicious in and of themselves.). Setting up multiple accounts and changing usernames and nicknames does not change the fact that your past behavior on this board has been rude, self-righteous and decidedly unChristian.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 9:11:38 GMT -5
I think he grasps it all to well--your reputation precedes your account changes (which are suspicious in and of themselves.). Setting up multiple accounts and changing usernames and nicknames does not change the fact that your past behavior on this board has been rude, self-righteous and decidedly unChristian. And because I'm human, and happen to be one who isn't afraid to call garbage "garbage" and lies "lies", I'm unChristian. It's some time ago since I came clean about the usernames, which wasn't anything like as bad as the continued, unashamed, promoting of the evolution lies that is going on elsewhere on these boards. I continue to wonder when Christians, who have so far been only too accommodating of these lies, will finally decide "enough is enough", and stand up for the Truth that is the Word of God, instead of the Theory of Evolution/Darwinism which is an atheistic untruth. Christian.
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Post by stevec on Nov 5, 2004 9:38:54 GMT -5
It's some time ago since I came clean about the usernames... Two wrongs don't make a right. Thank you for making my point for me. Just because a fellow Christian interprets the Bible differently than you do that makes what they say "lies"? Specks and logs, Andy, specks and logs.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 9:55:09 GMT -5
Two wrongs don't make a right. Thank you for making my point for me. Just because a fellow Christian interprets the Bible differently than you do that makes what they say "lies"? Specks and logs, Andy, specks and logs. And in this case, the "log" is the unashamed promotion of the lie that is the Theory of Evolution/Darwinism, and the "speck" is my past use of two, now redundant, usernames at the same time. But which one has the power to send unbelievers to Hell? Is it what I did with my usernames, or is it Traffic telling people not to place their confidence in what God says about our creation, etc? If we can't trust God, then who do we trust? Satan, and those who listen to him. Christian.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 9:59:34 GMT -5
Steve,
Who do you trust?
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Post by LauraJean on Nov 5, 2004 11:05:13 GMT -5
But which one has the power to send unbelievers to Hell? Well neither, really, since we know that neither of you has spoken against the Holy Spirit. MT 12:31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
LJ
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Post by stevec on Nov 5, 2004 11:23:12 GMT -5
Do you mean you or Traf? Well.. let me see. He uses his God-given ability to evaluate observable data and reconcile it with Scripture whereas you deceitfully change usernames in an attempt to get a fresh start because you've made a fool of yourself. Hmm....God-given common sense or lies? Gee, that's a tough one. I guess I'l have to go with Traf.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 12:53:53 GMT -5
Do you mean you or Traf? The question is quite simple: Whose words do you trust - God's or Satan's?Well.. let me see. He uses his God-given ability to evaluate observable data and reconcile it with Scripture whereas you deceitfully change usernames in an attempt to get a fresh start because you've made a fool of yourself. The story of the usernames goes like this: Last year, for some strange reason, I couldn't log on to Snotty's boards with my old username of "I2AM4GOD". So I decided to re-register myself as "AlphaOmega". No problem there. A day or so later I was surprised to find that I could still log on with my old username. I didn't know what to do with my new username. As the months went by, the arguing between Traffic and I about evolution/Darwinism got steadily worse, until, eventually, Snotty removed our freedom to automatically quote one anothers' posts in our exchanges. So I decided to put my new username of "AlphaOmega" to good use, bypkmtyolping what Snotty had done. And so, for a time, I succeeded. Then I was caught out when people started getting suspicious of the special relationship between "I2AM4GOD" and "AlphaOmega". I tried pretending a little while longer, but "Aunt Ronda" challenged me to do the decent thing and confess my "crime", which I did willingly. Looking back, I'm relieved I did it, but I do sometimes have a good chuckle about it. I no longer use those two usernames.Hmm....God-given common sense or lies? Gee, that's a tough one. It shouldn't be if you're a Christian. Still, I guess we're only human.......I guess I'l have to go with Traf. I don't care who you go with, just as long as it isn't with me if you're that way inclined! ;D BTW, that's a joke.
Christian.
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Post by AlphaOmega on Nov 5, 2004 13:38:49 GMT -5
Well neither, really, since we know that neither of you has spoken against the Holy Spirit. MT 12:31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
LJ Except that blaspheming the Holy Spirit isn't the only sin that can send people to Hell. Any unrepented of sin has that power, including the sin of knowingly leading people into false truths. Traffic has been warned about this by other Christians. Has he listened? Nope. Christian.
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