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Post by Panther on Mar 30, 2004 10:27:37 GMT -5
Hey all!
I have been doing some thinking. Back in the old "left behind" board days, many folks posted threads on "spiritual housecleaning."
Posts were made on spreading oil on your doorjambs, etc. to scare negative spirits/demons out of the home. There was talk of bringing items into the home with bad energies and how to rid the home of it. There were posts on saying prayers to chase the ghosts out.
I found the whole thing rather interesting, but I admit I am rather sceptical on the whole process.
Opinions?
Lisa
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Post by Nicodemus on Mar 30, 2004 10:41:24 GMT -5
My thoughts on this apply to myself as well - guilty as charged!
We think of ways to shoosh the demons out the door, while we continue to invite them back in through out television sets, cable and DVD's.
If we truly want to clean out the evil from our homes, or at least take a big step toward that end - we should all pile our tv's out on the trash heap next garbage day.
I'm not so sure they are wrong that say we should also put our libraries out there - Christian material and all - and keep one Book only.
Think deeply on why our great-grandparents were so spiritual and moral, and one of the things that occurs to me is they didn't have electricity and our modern conveniences.
Mothers had no choice but to stay home and care for her family.
Husbands commutted about 200 steps to the field where they farmed.
They all rode together on the LORD's day and attended worship service together.
So, I think that until we are serious about getting back to the true basics - threads discussing "casting out the evil ones" are pretty empty.
And I mean no disrespect to you, Lisa, for starting the thread.
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Post by Panther on Mar 30, 2004 10:45:48 GMT -5
No disrespect taken, whatsoever! Like I was saying, I am skeptical of these practices. Just wondering if there was anyone here that believed in it out of curiosity. Trying to stir things up a little, maybe!! Lisa
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Post by Nicodemus on Mar 30, 2004 10:48:19 GMT -5
Well, hopefully I helped you stir things up a bit.
To add a bit to my last thought. We are many of us surprised that our children are making so many wrong decisions when we considered that we hired a tv set to babysit them throughout their formative years.
But, asking me to throw out my box is like asking a junkie to get rid of all his needles, I s'pect.
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Post by genesda on Mar 30, 2004 11:00:01 GMT -5
Hey all! I have been doing some thinking. Back in the old "left behind" board days, many folks posted threads on "spiritual housecleaning." Posts were made on spreading oil on your doorjambs, etc. to scare negative spirits/demons out of the home. There was talk of bringing items into the home with bad energies and how to rid the home of it. There were posts on saying prayers to chase the ghosts out. I found the whole thing rather interesting, but I admit I am rather sceptical on the whole process. Opinions? Lisa Sounds like witchcraft to me. Only Jesus can chase demons away. When humans try this, they place themselves on Satan's ground and that's a bad place to be unarmed. Many have tried to do battle with Satan thinking they were prepared and found themselves overtaken by his powers of persuasion and moved over to the dark side. Stay in prayer and let Jesus do the fighting. [/color]
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Post by Panther on Mar 30, 2004 11:01:26 GMT -5
I agree with ya. Was suprised to see that so many people believed in this stuff.
Lisa
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Post by marysia on Mar 30, 2004 11:46:05 GMT -5
Well, hopefully I helped you stir things up a bit. To add a bit to my last thought. We are many of us surprised that our children are making so many wrong decisions when we considered that we hired a tv set to babysit them throughout their formative years. But, asking me to throw out my box is like asking a junkie to get rid of all his needles, I s'pect. well said and unfortunately -- all to true!
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Post by MorningStar on Mar 30, 2004 12:00:41 GMT -5
Hey all! I have been doing some thinking. Back in the old "left behind" board days, many folks posted threads on "spiritual housecleaning." Posts were made on spreading oil on your doorjambs, etc. to scare negative spirits/demons out of the home. There was talk of bringing items into the home with bad energies and how to rid the home of it. There were posts on saying prayers to chase the ghosts out. I found the whole thing rather interesting, but I admit I am rather sceptical on the whole process. Opinions? Lisa Sounds like witchcraft to me. Only Jesus can chase demons away. When humans try this, they place themselves on Satan's ground and that's a bad place to be unarmed. Many have tried to do battle with Satan thinking they were prepared and found themselves overtaken by his powers of persuasion and moved over to the dark side. Stay in prayer and let Jesus do the fighting. [/color][/quote] Speaking of witchcraft - there is a ritual used called the the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, where you cleanse the room of spirits. I won't post a link, but you can look it up on google. Some Kabbalists used this as well.
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Post by genesda on Apr 16, 2004 5:09:58 GMT -5
Speaking of witchcraft - there is a ritual used called the the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, where you cleanse the room of spirits. I won't post a link, but you can look it up on google. Some Kabbalists used this as well. When people turn to Christ and became Christians, unseen angels will clean your house for you and the evil one won;t be allowed to return as long as you stay focused on Jesus. When things like porno, sexual books, lies, etc. are allowed to creep in to the houisehold, angels will abandon that house and there is nothing anyone can do to rid the house of demons EXCEPT a return to Christ . [/color]
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Post by FaithOfAMustardSeed on Apr 16, 2004 7:14:09 GMT -5
When people turn to Christ and became Christians, unseen angels will clean your house for you and the evil one won;t be allowed to return as long as you stay focused on Jesus. When things like porno, sexual books, lies, etc. are allowed to creep in to the houisehold, angels will abandon that house and there is nothing anyone can do to rid the house of demons EXCEPT a return to Christ. [/color][/quote] Gene, Am I missing something here? I've never heard of this doctrine before. Is this a tongue-in-cheek reply or something I've missed? Angels in the house? Can you lend me a Scriptural reference for my edification?
FOAMS
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Post by genesda on Apr 16, 2004 8:19:24 GMT -5
Gene, Am I missing something here? I've never heard of this doctrine before. Is this a tongue-in-cheek reply or something I've missed? Angels in the house? Can you lend me a Scriptural reference for my edification?
FOAMS Try Ps.34:7-9. This does not say exactly what I claimed, and I'm not prepared to offer anything else at this time. If God's angels are "encamped" around us, then we are protected. God would never allow evil angels to "take us" from Him, but we are free to leave God's protection at any time. Have you ever read "Foxes Book Of Myrters" (Spelling)? Angels protected those who were being burned so they felt no pain. Some sang songs while their flesh was being consumed by the flames. It is not inconceivable to believe angels are around us and working in our behalf on a daily basis. I know for a fact that I had angel intervention a few years ago. My truck fell on me while I was working on it and I was pinned under it at my neck and shoulder. I couldn't move or breathe and was pkmtyolping out. I was pinned. All of a sudden, I was able to move and get out from under it and there was no one else there.
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Post by PhilipDC78 on Apr 16, 2004 9:33:56 GMT -5
As Christians, Satan has no hold over us. We are slaves of Christ and righteousness and no longer slaves to sin and death. Therefore there is nothing that Satan and his demons can do to us that we do not allow them to do. The power of Christ in our lives will keep demons out of our house and lives. It doesn't meant that Satan will not try all that much harder to get us to fall and sin, but ultimately he has no control over us. We have been redeemed! So we do not need to live in fear of Satan's demons, or spirits, or ghosts, or whatever you want to call them. We have the resurrected Christ residing with us!
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Post by PhilipDC78 on Apr 16, 2004 9:40:28 GMT -5
To add a bit to my last thought. We are many of us surprised that our children are making so many wrong decisions when we considered that we hired a tv set to babysit them throughout their formative years. I totally agree with you on this. My children will not watch television (not a single show) until they are at least 8 to 10 years old, and even then it will be very, very little as they grow up. They will be exposed to reading, music, sports, and many of the other things that kids who spend all their time watching TV don't get in the habit of doing.
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Post by BranchOfTheVine on Apr 16, 2004 14:30:23 GMT -5
TEXTLisa:
I know that this is off the subject but would you be so kind as to e-mail me and explain how you put the little pictures, etc. in your posts, i.e., the ones that move? Thanking you in advance for your consideration. YSIC...Edwina....ctryladi@aol.com
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Post by Shirley on Apr 16, 2004 16:53:56 GMT -5
[/color][/quote] wow..that's incredible..I wonder how many times we have been protected..and don't even know it? One thought though..WE open the door to allow these things in. But..yes, while we are walking with Him..they can't touch us. The problem comes..when we step away. Sorta like stepping out from under the umbrella when its raining..you're gonna get wet. Darkness cannot exist in the Light. Light will chase the darkness out. Now..we can "turn out the Light"...and allow the darkness to over take us..
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