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Post by Chewbacca on Jul 20, 2003 12:09:40 GMT -5
TEXTI came across an interesting Website recently. They have put together a book that is very thorough in the basic understanding of the Bible and Prophecy. You can read it from there site for free or also do it from Acrobat Reader and print it all. I printed the entire book which is 241 pages. LOL I like to read hard copy still vs the computer. Anyway here is the Website........ TEXTwww.ldolphin.org/kingdomI haven't gotten through the entire book as of yet, but I think it is well worth the read for anyone wishing to get a basic understanding of the Bible. Thanks Again TEXTChewbacca
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Post by guidemeLord on Jul 20, 2003 18:49:54 GMT -5
TEXTI came across an interesting Website recently. They have put together a book that is very thorough in the basic understanding of the Bible and Prophecy. You can read it from there site for free or also do it from Acrobat Reader and print it all. I printed the entire book which is 241 pages. LOL I like to read hard copy still vs the computer. Anyway here is the Website........ TEXTwww.ldolphin.org/kingdomI haven't gotten through the entire book as of yet, but I think it is well worth the read for anyone wishing to get a basic understanding of the Bible. Thanks Again TEXTChewbacca It appears to be the same as the Left Behind books... Isn't it the same eschatalogical view? I wonder if there is a preterist complete view somewhere.. anyone know?
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Post by Chewbacca on Jul 20, 2003 19:28:04 GMT -5
I just thought it was a good basic view of the Bible and was not comparing it to the Left Behind Books.
I don't know what an Eschatalogical is as of yet I don't think. LOL
I think I have seen some Preterist stuff somewhere but don't know where. LOL
Please don't tell me you have read the entire 241 pages today already and have pkmtyolped judgement on it this fast.
You sure you are not a Lawyer? LOL
Chewbacca
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Post by Shirley on Jul 20, 2003 19:30:34 GMT -5
It appears to be the same as the Left Behind books... Isn't it the same eschatalogical view? I wonder if there is a preterist complete view somewhere.. anyone know? I know of a church here in town that holds that view. They have a website, but when I tried to access it, it said I was forbidden to. Wonder what they are hiding? Guess you have to be in the secret click to see the lies they hold! I am getting somewhat angry about this! Why list a link to your website and then forbid people to access it? I have even been to that church. I thought they were christian....makes me wonder Sorry I couldn't help you.
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Post by Shirley on Jul 20, 2003 19:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by guidemeLord on Jul 20, 2003 19:58:55 GMT -5
I just thought it was a good basic view of the Bible and was not comparing it to the Left Behind Books. I don't know what an Eschatalogical is as of yet I don't think. LOL I think I have seen some Preterist stuff somewhere but don't know where. LOL Please don't tell me you have read the entire 241 pages today already and have pkmtyolped judgement on it this fast. You sure you are not a Lawyer? LOL Chewbacca NONONO ;D I didn't read it all!!! LOL I could just tell it wasn't a preterist view because of the Trib.. preterists don't believe in a future trib. Anyway.. I saved it to read. but 241 Pages today.... NO!!! Oh and No I am not a lawyer but I did consider going that route... Decided to go the MD route though to use my deductive reasoning in a constructive way... LOL
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Post by Chewbacca on Jul 20, 2003 20:39:18 GMT -5
guidemeLord
Ok thanks.
I am glad you have a sense of humor anyhow.
It is an interesting read though from what I have got through so far.
Hey, I can call you Doc now. LOL
Chewbacca
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Post by AJoyfulHeart on Jul 22, 2003 12:10:59 GMT -5
I skimmed the first four chapters. The authors believe in a pre-trib rapture. They also believe (and this is the first I have heard of this belief) that we will be with Christ here on the earth invisibly helping to fight Satan here on earth. Below is a quote from the book.
"But the church is the Body of Christ and the Head can not be separated from the Body! So we must begin to think of ourselves as present on earth with Jesus during the Tribulation period. Our resurrection bodies will make us invulnerable to sin and death. Furthermore, like our Lord, we will be invisible to the inhabitants of the earth."
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Post by guidemeLord on Jul 22, 2003 14:38:08 GMT -5
I skimmed the first four chapters. The authors believe in a pre-trib rapture. They also believe (and this is the first I have heard of this belief) that we will be with Christ here on the earth invisibly helping to fight Satan here on earth. Below is a quote from the book. "But the church is the Body of Christ and the Head can not be separated from the Body! So we must begin to think of ourselves as present on earth with Jesus during the Tribulation period. Our resurrection bodies will make us invulnerable to sin and death. Furthermore, like our Lord, we will be invisible to the inhabitants of the earth." I believe that this has already happened. in A.D. 70: Chariots in the Sky "On the 2lst of May a demonic phantom of incredible size... For before sunset there appeared in the air over the whole country chariots and armed troops coursing through the clouds and surrounding the cities." - Josephus, Jewish War, Book CXI Josephus identifies it as a demonic phantom and correctly so identifies it as a spiritual phantom. Demonic from Josephus' point of view but from the Christians point of view.. it is fulfillment of prophecy.
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Post by AJoyfulHeart on Jul 22, 2003 14:42:54 GMT -5
If everything that happened in the book of Revelation has happened than we are living in the new heaven and earth and everything is perfect! I don't think so!
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Post by guidemeLord on Jul 22, 2003 16:06:56 GMT -5
If everything that happened in the book of Revelation has happened than we are living in the new heaven and earth and everything is perfect! I don't think so! Everything is made new! We are new creatures serving a living God and our Saviour King. Doesn't Christ abide in you and you in His Kingdom? What then are we waiting for? A real live new city where we can dwell? Just like the pharisees thought there would be a literal king come rather than our King of kings and they missed the Messiah! All you may be missing is the "no tears and fountain of Living Waters" but that is by choice not because Jesus didn't finish the work He started.
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Post by AJoyfulHeart on Jul 22, 2003 16:09:06 GMT -5
Everything is made new! We are new creatures serving a living God and our Saviour King. Doesn't Christ abide in you and you in His Kingdom? What then are we waiting for? A real live new city where we can dwell? Just like the pharisees thought there would be a literal king come rather than our King of kings and they missed the Messiah! All you may be missing is the "no tears and fountain of Living Waters" but that is by choice not because Jesus didn't finish the work He started. so you think you will live forever here on earth? or could if we chose to??
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Post by guidemeLord on Jul 22, 2003 16:18:01 GMT -5
so you think you will live forever here on earth? um.....no... we all have to die sometime... just as we have so far. The difference in my death will be that I will be serving God for eternity. This world is a dress rehearsal for the actual eternity to come! Whether I serve God on earth or on heaven: John 12:25,26,31, He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will [my] Father honour. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. AMEN!
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Post by AJoyfulHeart on Jul 22, 2003 16:21:00 GMT -5
um.....no... we all have to die sometime... just as we have so far. The difference in my death will be that I will be serving God for eternity. This world is a dress rehearsal for the actual eternity to come! Whether I serve God on earth or on heaven: John 12:25,26,31, He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will [my] Father honour. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all [men] unto me. AMEN! Do you believe in a bodily resurection? If so when is that since revelation is already complete in your view than that resurection has already happened
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Post by AJoyfulHeart on Jul 22, 2003 16:27:30 GMT -5
Everything is made new! We are new creatures serving a living God and our Saviour King. Doesn't Christ abide in you and you in His Kingdom? What then are we waiting for? A real live new city where we can dwell? Just like the pharisees thought there would be a literal king come rather than our King of kings and they missed the Messiah! All you may be missing is the "no tears and fountain of Living Waters" but that is by choice not because Jesus didn't finish the work He started. Oh yes and at the end of Revelation Satan and his followers are thrown into hell. It seems to me that he and his folllowers are still very active here on earth.
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