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Post by AlphaOmega on Oct 12, 2004 6:32:28 GMT -5
And I don't complain. I live with what I'm given. I have decided... none of them best represents my beliefs and so none of them are getting my vote. I'm sorry you have a problem with that, but I CHOOSE to use my vote how I want to use it. Well said babysis. In a free country one has the right to decide whether or not to vote. Christian.
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 12, 2004 11:18:03 GMT -5
I have decided... none of them best represents my beliefs and so none of them are getting my vote. This surprises me so much about you. You neither believe we should be in Iraq nor that we shouldn't. You neither believe that abortion on demand is good nor bad. You neither believe that the government represents the best way to solve our problems nor that solving our problems is up to us. You neither believe that terrorism is a problem to be dealt with nor that the threat has been blown out of proportion. You neither believe that Bush lied nor that he told the truth. You neither believe that taxes should only be paid by the wealthy nor that all people should pull some weight. You neither believe that the environment is under attack nor that it isn't. You neither believe that the death penalty is good nor bad. See, to me, all of the candidates represent such diametrically opposed views of the way the country should be run that I cannot imagine none of them come close to your beliefs. I'm left wondering what your beliefs are, or, more to the point, what your priorities are. Further, Babysis, I know you honor our military and their sacrifices. Do you not understand what our soldiers, sailors, airmen and corpsmen were sacrificing for over the years? And as a woman, how can you pkmtyolp on the opportunity to vote when that opportunity was so hard fought on our behalf? Yes, I guess I do have a problem and I know it's my problem, not yours. I just don't understand that, after a careful examination of the issues, a voter couldn't identify with any candidate. Do I expect to agree with my candidate 100%? Absolutely not. But each of the candidates represents an overall view of the world and the country that is fundamentally different from each of the others. Surely, somewhere in the mix, you can find that which is most important to you. I don't mean to make this personal, and my comments are intended not for you in particular but for anyone who thinks it's okay to pkmtyolp on this (or any) election. People have died protecting my freedom to vote. I will not dishonor that sacrifice by staying home the first Tuesday in November. Please forgive my rant. This is just really important to me. Blessings, LJ
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Post by babysis on Oct 12, 2004 12:38:36 GMT -5
I have found the most important issue to me and all the candidates agree on it and it is the opposite of what I believe. So none agree with me on this point that is most important to me so I don't see why I should give any of them my vote.
Like you I refuse to dishonor those who fought and died for my right to vote by just throwing it to anyone. I refuse to just give my vote to someone that I do feel I should give my vote to. If it will make everyone feel better I will go to the polls and write my own name in for president. Then you can't tell me I'm not "doing my job". I know no one has said that exactly, but that's how it's coming across.
None of the people on the ballot I want to give my vote to. What is the difference between me going and writing my own name in or me not going at all?
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Post by AlphaOmega on Oct 13, 2004 5:27:56 GMT -5
I have found the most important issue to me and all the candidates agree on it and it is the opposite of what I believe. So none agree with me on this point that is most important to me so I don't see why I should give any of them my vote. Like you I refuse to dishonor those who fought and died for my right to vote by just throwing it to anyone. I refuse to just give my vote to someone that I do feel I should give my vote to. If it will make everyone feel better I will go to the polls and write my own name in for president. Then you can't tell me I'm not "doing my job". I know no one has said that exactly, but that's how it's coming across. None of the people on the ballot I want to give my vote to. What is the difference between me going and writing my own name in or me not going at all? You are so right.
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Post by heathen76 on Oct 13, 2004 8:20:58 GMT -5
I have found the most important issue to me and all the candidates agree on it and it is the opposite of what I believe. So none agree with me on this point that is most important to me so I don't see why I should give any of them my vote. Like you I refuse to dishonor those who fought and died for my right to vote by just throwing it to anyone. I refuse to just give my vote to someone that I do feel I should give my vote to. If it will make everyone feel better I will go to the polls and write my own name in for president. Then you can't tell me I'm not "doing my job". I know no one has said that exactly, but that's how it's coming across. None of the people on the ballot I want to give my vote to. What is the difference between me going and writing my own name in or me not going at all? Hey babysis- I'm curious, what is the issue that is most important to you? Will you share it, or do you want to keep it private? If you want to stay mum it's cool.
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Post by babysis on Oct 13, 2004 12:37:20 GMT -5
I have no problem sharing it. I've shared it before. It's the whole campaigning ordeal. The mudslinging, etc. Every candidate does it. The first one who doesn't do that and who doesn't disagree with other major issues that I believe in they will get my vote.
To me that is the most important issue. It's all about the person's character.
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Post by heathen76 on Oct 13, 2004 12:55:18 GMT -5
I have no problem sharing it. I've shared it before. It's the whole campaigning ordeal. The mudslinging, etc. Every candidate does it. The first one who doesn't do that and who doesn't disagree with other major issues that I believe in they will get my vote. To me that is the most important issue. It's all about the person's character. Thanks for sharing that, and I agree. I think the whole campaign thing needs a major overhaul.
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 13, 2004 13:19:50 GMT -5
I'm rethinking my rant. I have revised my opinion. I now believe that a non-voter is preferable to an uninformed voter.
(I am not thinking about anyone in particular, I'm just using this thread about voting to share my opinions (and their revisions) about it.)
That is all....
Blessings, LJ
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 13, 2004 13:24:55 GMT -5
SO...
For those of you who have an informed opinion and will be voting, have the debates:
(a) confirmed what you already believed? (b) helped you make up your mind? (c) changed your mind? (d) pleasantly surprised you? (e) disappointed you? (f) really bugged the snot out of you?
Multiple responses are acceptable.
Peace, LJ
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 13, 2004 13:29:35 GMT -5
It's the whole campaigning ordeal. The mudslinging, etc. I think the whole campaign thing needs a major overhaul. Unfortunately, as long as the tactic works (and it does!) candidates will use it. Though I generally eschew categories, I guess I could be considered a "security mom." In this particular election cycle the big (but NOT only!) issue for me is national security. Usually it's the economy but who cares how the economy is doing if we aren't safe and free to participate in our capitalistic system? Just my (not very) humble $.02. Blessings! LJ
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Post by babysis on Oct 13, 2004 13:39:23 GMT -5
It's good to see you have a major issue too.
I have my one that has to be met before I will even look at any of the others. So far, while I have looked at the other issues, I have not seriously looked at them for voting decision purposes because my one issue has not been met.
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 13, 2004 14:01:49 GMT -5
It's good to see you have a major issue too. LOL, the flip side of the argument is that without a sound economy, there would be no money to fund our defense and THEN where would we be? It's all intertwined for me, but sometimes events lead one issue to rise a little more to the top. I predict that someday something will rattle your cage enough that you'll get past the ever-present "mud-slinging" and have to take a stand, so don't tear up your voter registration card just yet! Blessings, LJ
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Post by babysis on Oct 13, 2004 14:25:07 GMT -5
LOL, the flip side of the argument is that without a sound economy, there would be no money to fund our defense and THEN where would we be? It's all intertwined for me, but sometimes events lead one issue to rise a little more to the top. I predict that someday something will rattle your cage enough that you'll get past the ever-present "mud-slinging" and have to take a stand, so don't tear up your voter registration card just yet! Blessings, LJ Will something someday rattle your cage enough that you will get past your issue with the security? I have taken a stand on the issue that is most important to me, the character of the future president. And I haven't a clue where my voter registration card is so it won't be torn up! ;D
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Post by Cohdra on Oct 13, 2004 14:38:58 GMT -5
I'm voting for Bush; I am not entirely happy with his performance, but he is closest to what I believe in..the lesser of two evils God bless
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Post by LauraJean on Oct 13, 2004 14:47:11 GMT -5
Will something someday rattle your cage enough that you will get past your issue with the security? Oh, my goodness, yes! As I said, that's just what has risen to the top this election cycle, but it is by no means the only issue upon which I'm basing my decision. The vision of how America should be, (a sovreign nation vs. a member of a "global community") and, as usual, the economy are also huge factors. (there're more!) Four years ago it was the economy and character, with some reproductive issues and personal accountability thrown in for good measure. Four years from now, who knows what will be at the forefront of our national discussion? I guess I differ in that I don't see campaigning practices as a telling indicator on the issue of character. If you do, more power to you. That's why this country is so great! Be assured the character of the world's most powerful person is indeed important to me! ROFLMHO!! Blessings, LJ
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