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Post by genesda on Mar 23, 2004 9:03:20 GMT -5
Kerry is advertising himself as "a Democrat with war experience".
How do you feel about Kerry showing himself with his home movies, emerging from the jungles of Vietnam carring a rifle and in his new campaign ad? [/color]
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Post by marysia on Mar 23, 2004 16:07:42 GMT -5
i think he is allowed as it IS part of his history - however he needs to "Harvatize it" and add -- the rest of the story. how about a picture of himself with jane fonda protesting?
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Post by TarueBeliever on Mar 23, 2004 16:54:52 GMT -5
How well did he do his job in the war?
TB
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Post by marysia on Mar 23, 2004 17:03:18 GMT -5
How well did he do his job in the war? TB from what i've heard it was similar to his voting record - little bit of this and a little bit of that.
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Post by genesda on Mar 24, 2004 5:38:21 GMT -5
from what i've heard it was similar to his voting record - little bit of this and a little bit of that. There is a crewman who states the opposite of what the other 9 crewmen said. This one man said Kerry was Chicken...t and avoided the fight whenever he could. This was only one out of ten, so I don't really know which is correct. Maybe there are 9 Democrats and one Republican in his crews. If that being the case, I'd have to believe the one. I wonder if politics was involved in his getting any medals.
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Post by RealistState on Mar 24, 2004 23:10:04 GMT -5
from what i've heard it was similar to his voting record - little bit of this and a little bit of that. There is a crewman who states the opposite of what the other 9 crewmen said. This one man said Kerry was Chicken...t and avoided the fight whenever he could. This was only one out of ten, so I don't really know which is correct. Maybe there are 9 Democrats and one Republican in his crews. If that being the case, I'd have to believe the one. I wonder if politics was involved in his getting any medals.
[/color][/quote] This is about the most ludicrous thing I've ever read from you. For this to be true, you would have to believe that a 20-something year old man had enough forward planning in his life that would allow him to polish his image for a run at the Presidency many years later. You may have been saying this "tongue in cheek", but anyone that has ever been under fire, politics is not likely to come up. It's also highly unlikely that politics affected the Naval Review Board for the award of medals (awards of Purple Hearts are self-evident). The same can't be said for early-release from the Air National Guard to attend business school! Politics was in full bore mode for that one!
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Post by Jan on Mar 25, 2004 2:22:26 GMT -5
How well did he do his job in the war? TB From what I heard, he was out in the ocean - and many vets are very upset with his stand on the Viet Nam war when he came back stateside - Many may like him, but I have a creepy feeling about him - MHO <><
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Post by genesda on Mar 25, 2004 6:18:20 GMT -5
This is about the most ludicrous thing I've ever read from you. For this to be true, you would have to believe that a 20-something year old man had enough forward planning in his life that would allow him to polish his image for a run at the Presidency many years later. That's exactly what Algore did!! He was groomed for running for president by his father from early on. He only went to Vietnam for later political purposes, AND he had assurance that he would only serve in "rear" positions as a journalist. [/color] You may have been saying this "tongue in cheek", but anyone that has ever been under fire, politics is not likely to come up. It's also highly unlikely that politics affected the Naval Review Board for the award of medals (awards of Purple Hearts are self-evident). Yes, I read that his purple hearts were given because of scratches he received. I've yet to hear about his "battle wounds". We also don't know how much politics was involved in his receiving an medal for bravery. He doesn't come across as a brave person given his voting record. [/color] The same can't be said for early-release from the Air National Guard to attend business school! Politics was in full bore mode for that one! So what? That was the order of the day. Bush isn't running around trying to convince anyone about how "brave" he is. Bush just takes the necessary actions, which is a sign of manhood. Talking about actions is cowardly! If Kerry has to tell everyone about his vietnam service, it must not have been too outstanding or it would be noticed without his continueously reminding everyone. I was given an apprenticeship deferrment because of my trade at that time. I certainly didn't want to go to Vietnam, but would have gone if required. I was very happy that I didn't have to go into the military. [/color]
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Post by genesda on Mar 25, 2004 6:21:58 GMT -5
From what I heard, he was out in the ocean - and many vets are very upset with his stand on the Viet Nam war when he came back stateside - Many may like him, but I have a creepy feeling about him - MHO <>< That one crewman said he avoided a fight whenever possible. I don't fault him for that, but to now claim that he was a big brave hero is what I take exception with. Kerry is no different than any other soldier that went to Vietnam. Well that's not completely true. There were those who went with a commitment to overthrow the enemy occupation of the south, as depicted in the factual movie "We Were Soldiers". Kerry would never fit in with that group of men.
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Post by Panther on Mar 30, 2004 10:09:36 GMT -5
From what I heard, he was out in the ocean - and many vets are very upset with his stand on the Viet Nam war when he came back stateside - Many may like him, but I have a creepy feeling about him - MHO <>< Yeah- creepy is a good word! I am in agreement. Lisa
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Post by masarap on Mar 30, 2004 22:17:49 GMT -5
Yeah- creepy is a good word! I am in agreement. Lisa Lisa, with all due respect you just responded to me on another thread about judging others.... Read your quote... You have very much judged someone. I am not saying you are wrong to do so and showing good discernment is what the Bible stresses over and over.. but my dear you have done the very thing that you said I had no right to do..... Hmmm.... Masarap
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Post by MorningStar on Mar 30, 2004 22:22:26 GMT -5
Lisa, with all due respect you just responded to me on another thread about judging others.... Read your quote... You have very much judged someone. I am not saying you are wrong to do so and showing good discernment is what the Bible stresses over and over.. but my dear you have done the very thing that you said I had no right to do..... Hmmm.... Masarap I think there is a difference in saying someone makes you feel a little creepy and ripping someone for what you see are their beliefs.
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Post by masarap on Mar 30, 2004 23:01:12 GMT -5
I respect what you say Morningstar but actually it is still judging... When someone says they feel creepy about someone it seems they are very much judging what that person believes or their actions. Belief influences action. I was just making a point that THAT is exactly what the Word of God tells those that read to do!! It does not say judge against your own standards but Gods standards, but you BETTER be doing that to your own life first!! There has been a major misinterpretation of the Words of Jesus who said "Judge not lest ye be judged" It goes on to say "but judge with righteous judgement" What may look a diferent matter to you MS looks very much the same thing to me cloaked in a different wrapper.... Blessings, Masarap
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Post by genesda on Mar 31, 2004 6:10:41 GMT -5
I respect what you say Morningstar but actually it is still judging... When someone says they feel creepy about someone it seems they are very much judging what that person believes or their actions. Belief influences action. I was just making a point that THAT is exactly what the Word of God tells those that read to do!! It does not say judge against your own standards but Gods standards, but you BETTER be doing that to your own life first!! There has been a major misinterpretation of the Words of Jesus who said "Judge not lest ye be judged" It goes on to say "but judge with righteous judgement" What may look a diferent matter to you MS looks very much the same thing to me cloaked in a different wrapper.... Blessings, Masarap There's a world of difference between recognizing right from wrong and saying so, and judging someone for their wrongs. I state often that it is wrong for considering Sunday to be a holy day but I'm not going to judge you for it. I'll ask where does the bible say this and I'll also quote from what I know to be right. What you do with the information is between you and God. [/color]
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Post by MorningStar on Mar 31, 2004 8:36:59 GMT -5
There's a world of difference between recognizing right from wrong and saying so, and judging someone for their wrongs. I state often that it is wrong for considering Sunday to be a holy day but I'm not going to judge you for it. I'll ask where does the bible say this and I'll also quote from what I know to be right. What you do with the information is between you and God. [/color][/quote] Maybe the Christians are right - the world is coming to and end - I actually agree with gene!
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