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Post by Shirley on Aug 24, 2003 15:00:14 GMT -5
SJudy, If you don't believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savoiur, then you don't have the Holy Spirit leading you. If Christ lives in your heart, you can't hide that light under a bushel, It must shine for everyone to see. Jesus is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. You can't get to heaven any other way, but thru Jesus Christ. There is no other truth, none. Only Jesus. I wasn't going to respond to this again...but let me try. Yes, there are other Truths and other ways. I know you don't believe this but I do, now. What they are, I am not going into right now. They are not evil, satanic or demonic. Of that I am certain.
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Post by AISLINN on Aug 24, 2003 15:02:07 GMT -5
I don't want to speak for Shirley but I think she has just finally let her light shine for everyone to see. And it has a beautiful glow.
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Post by AISLINN on Aug 24, 2003 15:26:21 GMT -5
I know for me personally I had to find God my own way. I also believe there are many truths out there and what might work for some might not work for all. You have to do what is right for you, not what everyone else thinks you should. But I think you have already discovered this and on your way to a truth filled journey godspeed!
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Post by Kee on Aug 24, 2003 15:33:32 GMT -5
I don't want to speak for Shirley but I think she has just finally let her light shine for everyone to see. And it has a beautiful glow. I sure agree, AISLINN! It's great when you can just be yourself and people can see the beauty of who you are, exactly as you are. That's seeing through the eyes of unconditional LOVE!
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Post by outlawgirl3464 on Aug 24, 2003 15:46:59 GMT -5
Well, I can truely see where this message board is going..... and I'm truely sorry to see that you have been "sucked" in Shirley..... I will truely keep you in my prayers, as I know the Truth and Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to reach my salvation. There is no "ME ME ME" that's only selfish and self satisfying. And it won't get you into heaven. I'm truely sad for you!
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Post by somebody on Aug 24, 2003 16:02:30 GMT -5
Amen, Outlawgirl, That's what I've been sitting here trying to think of to say to SJudy. All I can say is Amen. But, I will keep trying, because Jesus said we must leave the 99 and try to save the lost 1.
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Post by Kee on Aug 24, 2003 16:04:25 GMT -5
Well, I can truely see where this message board is going..... and I'm truely sorry to see that you have been "sucked" in Shirley..... I will truely keep you in my prayers, as I know the Truth and Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to reach my salvation. There is no "ME ME ME" that's only selfish and self satisfying. And it won't get you into heaven. I'm truely sad for you! outlaw girl,
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to offend you - but your post rings like a guilt trip you wish to place on Shirley. I don't think that's really a nice thing to do. You sound like you could care less about what she is feeling or thinks. You know, like all you care about it the religion and not the person.
Negative energy...........
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Post by layer3maniac on Aug 24, 2003 16:30:01 GMT -5
Sorry, Kee, but I completely disagree here. Jesus Christ IS the Way, the Truth, and the Life. There ARE no other ways.
You believe that there are, and don't have ANY problem voicing your beliefs. Why should it be any different for us?
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Post by billbo1970 on Aug 24, 2003 17:02:27 GMT -5
I wasn't going to respond to this again...but let me try. Yes, there are other Truths and other ways. I know you don't believe this but I do, now. What they are, I am not going into right now. They are not evil, satanic or demonic. Of that I am certain. I'm certain they ARE
PIC, Bill[/color]
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Post by Kee on Aug 24, 2003 17:15:32 GMT -5
Sorry, Kee, but I completely disagree here. Jesus Christ IS the Way, the Truth, and the Life. There ARE no other ways. You believe that there are, and don't have ANY problem voicing your beliefs. Why should it be any different for "us? Hi layer,
I don't have any problem with anyone voicing their beliefs, but comments such as...."Well, I can truely see where this message board is going..... and I'm truely sorry to see that you have been "sucked" in Shirley..... There is no "ME ME ME" that's only selfish and self satisfying. " ...are uncalled for. Would you be okay with me saying, "This is great Shirley, I'm glad you are not being sucked in by those Christians anymore." Would you ??
I think I know what your answer would be.
Respect of others feelings in one's choices of words should not be an unrealistc expectation Layer. Shirley is not being selfish and self-satisfying in seeking truth, and I think it was quite rude to imply that's what she is doing. These were presumptious and arrogant remarks.
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Post by layer3maniac on Aug 24, 2003 17:28:35 GMT -5
Would you be okay with me saying, "This is great Shirley, I'm glad you are not being sucked in by those Christians?" Sure. Isn't that, in effect, what you ARE saying? I agree! Again, I agree! Probably so. But rudeness, arrogance, and presumtivenes are practically requirements for posting around here, aren't they? ;D
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Post by Kee on Aug 24, 2003 17:37:06 GMT -5
Sure. Isn't that, in effect, what you ARE saying? No, that is not in effect what I have ever said. That is what outlaw girl said, and I merely echoed her tone back to you so you'd see how it sounds.
For some aparently so. Is that the beliefs or the person? Hard to tell sometimes. ;D
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Post by CatholicChristian on Aug 24, 2003 17:44:28 GMT -5
I sent this as a private pm in response to a pm and decided to share it here. This is where I am right now. Of course, I have left out details. For now. I don't know the end of this story, yet. I know what direction I am going. Not details though. Understand, this all began for me on July 27th. To avoid confusion, I was answering to a suggestion of reading material. Shirley, What happened...you know you can e-mail me if you want to talk. You know how to reach me. I'm praying with you. Blessings, CC
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Post by Citizen on Aug 24, 2003 19:28:55 GMT -5
Oh, Shirley ... words cannot express how sorrowful my heart is right now. Please don't misunderstand and think I'm saying I hate you ... I'm disappointed in you ... or that I not longer have time for you. I'm saying NONE of those things. But I truly grieve for you as you set your foot on this path. I will do anything I can to help you, if you'll let me ... and in the meantime you'll remain in my prayers. Lori
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Post by mook2357 on Aug 24, 2003 20:47:44 GMT -5
Well, I can truely see where this message board is going..... and I'm truely sorry to see that you have been "sucked" in Shirley..... I will truely keep you in my prayers, as I know the Truth and Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to reach my salvation. There is no "ME ME ME" that's only selfish and self satisfying. And it won't get you into heaven. I'm truely sad for you! Shirley, if you get time...I personally would be interesting in hearing you try to answer the assumption above about "me me me." Do you find that you are being more self centered in any manner? And if so, how? I could address this from MY perspective, but I don't know if it applies to yours or not...but THIS is the common misconception I hear about MY beliefs...and many others of similar beliefs. So, if possible...can you address this point? Thanks.
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