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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 16:19:05 GMT -5
I sent this as a private pm in response to a pm and decided to share it here. This is where I am right now. Of course, I have left out details. For now. I don't know the end of this story, yet. I know what direction I am going. Not details though. Understand, this all began for me on July 27th. To avoid confusion, I was answering to a suggestion of reading material.
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Post by babysis on Aug 22, 2003 16:27:46 GMT -5
Hello SJudy. I'm sorry this happened to you. I will keep you in my prayers.
One thing though. You need to find The Truth, not the truth that's right for you. We are only humans and we don't always know what is right for us. But guess what? God does! That's why He gave us the Truth. He gave us the right thing for us. Why? Because He knows us and loves us. Amen Amen Thank you Lord!
Perhaps you were living with some errored doctrine and while reading the Bible you realized that. I'm not really sure. If you want to talk, please feel free to PM me or if you want to talk about it here, that's fine too.
God bless you and keep talking to our Father in prayer. He is listening to you and will answer if you stay quiet and listen for an answer. Just remember, He always answers your prayers and it's in one of three ways. Yes. No. or Wait.
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Post by guidemeLord on Aug 22, 2003 16:30:53 GMT -5
I sent this as a private pm in response to a pm and decided to share it here. This is where I am right now. Of course, I have left out details. For now. I don't know the end of this story, yet. I know what direction I am going. Not details though. Understand, this all began for me on July 27th. To avoid confusion, I was answering to a suggestion of reading material. Shirley, Sounds like what I went through. 27 years of biblical instruction wasted. I wish I could have shattered when I was younger... just think of the GOOD decisions I could have made in my life. The pieces will fall into place. You called on the Holy Spirit to open your understanding and instead of continuing in something that is popular, you are willing to be called a heretic for the glory of God!! Don't fret Shirley! There are others out there that this has happened to. Stick by what the Holy Spirit says and go where He leads you!
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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 16:39:25 GMT -5
Hello SJudy. I'm sorry this happened to you. I will keep you in my prayers. One thing though. You need to find The Truth, not the truth that's right for you. We are only humans and we don't always know what is right for us. But guess what? God does! That's why He gave us the Truth. He gave us the right thing for us. Why? Because He knows us and loves us. Amen Amen Thank you Lord! Perhaps you were living with some errored doctrine and while reading the Bible you realized that. I'm not really sure. If you want to talk, please feel free to PM me or if you want to talk about it here, that's fine too. God bless you and keep talking to our Father in prayer. He is listening to you and will answer if you stay quiet and listen for an answer. Just remember, He always answers your prayers and it's in one of three ways. Yes. No. or Wait. Thank you Babysis. No, I wasn't living with errored doctrine. I had no real doctrine prior to reading and sharing with so many people. Before, I had no church, no pastor, no nothing. Brief encounters with the church world, but nothing permanant. I had always studied on my own. I am an avid reader. Then it just all came crashing down. Perhaps I had studied too hard. I couldn't make the pieces fit anymore. I have to find what is Truth. I couldn't see it anymore. I know this makes no sense to you and if someone had said this to me on July26, I would have thought they were probably nuts. On that day, all was intact. It was an awakening for me, on July 27th. Don't worry over much about me though. I am so very happy where I am at this moment in time. I feel a sense of freedom that I haven't known for a very long time...I remember when the last time was. It was in 1980....January. I was truly free at that time. That is a long time to feel like I did... Shirley
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Post by heathen76 on Aug 22, 2003 16:59:11 GMT -5
Shirley-
That's pretty interesting, actually. I would say that the same thing happened to me except it didn't happen all at once - more like over several years. Good luck in your search!
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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 17:03:57 GMT -5
Shirley- That's pretty interesting, actually. I would say that the same thing happened to me except it didn't happen all at once - more like over several years. Good luck in your search! Thank you Heathen. Just the few weeks have been amazing! Mine was in a flash. All at once, it seemed. Like a bomb exploded. Perhaps it had been sometime in coming, but it didn't seem like it. A house of cards, knocked over by the wind... Blessings, Shirley
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Post by heathen76 on Aug 22, 2003 17:07:22 GMT -5
Thank you Heathen. Just the few weeks have been amazing! Mine was in a flash. All at once, it seemed. Like a bomb exploded. Perhaps it had been sometime in coming, but it didn't seem like it. A house of cards, knocked over by the wind... Blessings, Shirley And to think that it was your doing! You chose to move to the next level. Good for you, angel-in-disgise. You are honored for this step more than you realize!
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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 17:16:46 GMT -5
And to think that it was your doing! You chose to move to the next level. Good for you, angel-in-disgise. You are honored for this step more than you realize! I like that-angel-in-disguise...I am excited about learning it all again.. Shirley
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Post by muse on Aug 22, 2003 19:24:33 GMT -5
So are you saying you don't believe in God anymore and are searching along other avenues or searching for the Truth? God's Truth? You're in my prayers, SJudy! Hugs.
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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 19:24:36 GMT -5
Shirley, Sounds like what I went through. 27 years of biblical instruction wasted. I wish I could have shattered when I was younger... just think of the GOOD decisions I could have made in my life. The pieces will fall into place. You called on the Holy Spirit to open your understanding and instead of continuing in something that is popular, you are willing to be called a heretic for the glory of God!! Don't fret Shirley! There are others out there that this has happened to. Stick by what the Holy Spirit says and go where He leads you! Uhm, Guideme, I doubt what i went through is the same as you. I did not say I called on the Holy Spirit.. I'm sorry to disappoint you. The heretic part...sorry again. As I said in an earlier post, the whole thing came crashing down like a house of cards. There is very little of the old "me" left. Too many shattered beliefs for that. Yes, I am starting over. Back to where I was a long time ago. To the person I was before. When I was a free spirit. Not afraid of anything. That person I was in January of 1980. Not even afraid of hitchhiking down the west coast alone, with five bucks to my name! Not that I am going to start hitch hiking anywhere, I have two cars, I can drive now. But the sense of wonder, of exploration, of opening new vistas and visiting new places, even if from here at home is so exciting to me at this moment I can't even begin to describe it! I am that 20 yo, headed down the highway. No fear. No guilt. Just me and God on that trip. And that was BC. and it was also before "religion" came in and told me what I could and couldn't do. When I supressed who I really am. Put "me" in a box that appealed to everyone else. But not to me. I had lost a lot of who I was. Twenty three years of doing the shoulds and not doing the shouldn'ts. You know, today for the first time, I read my horoscope. It didn't make much sense, and I don't put much stock in a newspaper funny page horoscope. But in the years before, I wouldn't even look at it. Not even for fun. Too much guilt. So, I amsure this is not what you were thinking when you read my OP. Sorry to disappoint you. Blessings always, Shirley
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Post by Kee on Aug 22, 2003 20:04:41 GMT -5
Yes, I am starting over. Back to where I was a long time ago. To the person I was before. When I was a free spirit. Not afraid of anything. That person I was in January of 1980. Not even afraid of hitchhiking down the west coast alone, with five bucks to my name! Not that I am going to start hitch hiking anywhere, I have two cars, I can drive now. But the sense of wonder, of exploration, of opening new vistas and visiting new places, even if from here at home is so exciting to me at this moment I can't even begin to describe it! I am that 20 yo, headed down the highway. No fear. No guilt. Just me and God on that trip. "Just me and God" -- don't you know it!! Shirley, I am so happy for you to get in touch with the real you to find and experience those TRUTHS, instead of just believing what is TRUTH. Big difference. It's the YOU that YOU Choose, and I just know that you are going to land in the perfect place.
God's many, many Blessings, and here's to those endearing friendships along the way! Hugs, Kee
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Post by AISLINN on Aug 22, 2003 20:31:33 GMT -5
Good for you Shirley! Now make room, you've just picked up a pkmtyolpenger, ME! ;D
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Post by Shirley on Aug 22, 2003 20:35:34 GMT -5
So are you saying you don't believe in God anymore and are searching along other avenues or searching for the Truth? God's Truth? You're in my prayers, SJudy! Hugs. I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD ANYMORE. In fact, I have always believed in God...
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Post by mook2357 on Aug 22, 2003 21:40:04 GMT -5
I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD ANYMORE. In fact, I have always believed in God... Amen.
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Post by babysis on Aug 22, 2003 23:07:14 GMT -5
Thank you Babysis. No, I wasn't living with errored doctrine. I had no real doctrine prior to reading and sharing with so many people. Before, I had no church, no pastor, no nothing. Brief encounters with the church world, but nothing permanant. I had always studied on my own. I am an avid reader. Then it just all came crashing down. Perhaps I had studied too hard. I couldn't make the pieces fit anymore. I have to find what is Truth. I couldn't see it anymore. I know this makes no sense to you and if someone had said this to me on July26, I would have thought they were probably nuts. On that day, all was intact. It was an awakening for me, on July 27th. Don't worry over much about me though. I am so very happy where I am at this moment in time. I feel a sense of freedom that I haven't known for a very long time...I remember when the last time was. It was in 1980....January. I was truly free at that time. That is a long time to feel like I did... Shirley Without knowing more than what you've said, it sounds to me like you maybe you over analyzed things. I was just saying to my mom last night that at some point there has to just be faith. I'm not saying you didn't have any. But if you were studying too hard, maybe you were more into that than having faith. I really don't know. I'll keep you in my prayers though.
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