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Post by compguy on Mar 27, 2005 20:37:55 GMT -5
If you haven't heard about this situation you must be living in a cave.
I can understand the issue about starving her to death and all, that does seem like murder in a way but on the other had I myself have signed a living will stating that I have no wish to live on with no hope of recovery by machine.
The problem as I see it is that the medical profession can sustain life indefinately now a days. Say perhaps the Pope had gone into coma and went brain dead? They could sustain his life on machines for years. That would in fact mean there could be no new Pope appointed wouldn't it? I'm not catholic so maybe we can get some input on this also.
Compguy
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Post by christian on Mar 29, 2005 12:21:32 GMT -5
Are you praying for her? It's all too easy for us Christians to doubt the power of prayer.
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Post by marysia on Mar 29, 2005 12:59:46 GMT -5
If you haven't heard about this situation you must be living in a cave. I can understand the issue about starving her to death and all, that does seem like murder in a way but on the other had I myself have signed a living will stating that I have no wish to live on with no hope of recovery by machine. The problem as I see it is that the medical profession can sustain life indefinately now a days. Say perhaps the Pope had gone into coma and went brain dead? They could sustain his life on machines for years. That would in fact mean there could be no new Pope appointed wouldn't it? I'm not catholic so maybe we can get some input on this also. Compguy i too have a living will. the only reason to leave me on any support is to "harvest" any viable organs. there is a max of 72 hours - after that - pull everything. i believe the difference with Terri is that she has been on the feeding tubes for 15+ years. had she not been put on, i do not believe it would have been seen as murder. however, as she has been on the "life support" and there is nothing dictating her choice - this is, in some respects, assisted suicide. the only thing i don't understand is -- yes i understand her parents and family wanting her to be able to live - however -- the courts have spoken and the ruling is set - she is to be removed from all forms of life support - therefore her death immenent and so hen is her rising with Christ. As Rcc we believe that after our own personal judgement before Christ and retrubition for our sins, we will walk with Jesus in heaven. my prayers are with she and her family for strength and that God's Holy Will be done.
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Post by Cohdra on Mar 31, 2005 12:43:11 GMT -5
If you haven't heard about this situation you must be living in a cave. I can understand the issue about starving her to death and all, that does seem like murder in a way but on the other had I myself have signed a living will stating that I have no wish to live on with no hope of recovery by machine. The problem as I see it is that the medical profession can sustain life indefinately now a days. Say perhaps the Pope had gone into coma and went brain dead? They could sustain his life on machines for years. That would in fact mean there could be no new Pope appointed wouldn't it? I'm not catholic so maybe we can get some input on this also. Compguy They cannot sustain life indefinitely; Terri, other than her disability, was very healthy; she would have aged (perhaps a bit faster because of her condition) naturally, then died of old age To the best of my knowledge, They would never sustain a Pope in that condition; it wouldn't happen....the Church needs an active, aware Pope. I remember hearing a bishop? talk about this issue, and I think if the Pope can no longer make intelligent, prayerful, logical decisions, a new Pope would be elected, or others would make decisions for an un-disclosed period of time). So, even if a particular Pope wanted to be maintained in that condition (unlikely, but could happen), he would most likely be "retired". It has never happened. This pope has had the 3rd longest running service of any pope in Church history. I have heard speculation that the next papal election will be influenced by age / health. They will want a pope that will potentially have a much shorter service as head of the Church...just speculation! God bless
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Post by marysia on Mar 31, 2005 14:00:12 GMT -5
hey cohdra? do you know which pope had the shortest term??
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Post by Cohdra on Mar 31, 2005 15:57:36 GMT -5
hey cohdra? do you know which pope had the shortest term?? Which one was it? I found one that lasted one to two days....Stephen II Mar 23-Mar 24 (752)
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Post by marysia on Apr 1, 2005 9:50:03 GMT -5
Which one was it? I found one that lasted one to two days....Stephen II Mar 23-Mar 24 (752) AH GEE -- you're good! only other "notable" on tming would be in 1290 (i think) was the first to ascutallt resign the position. my prayers are with JPII!
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Post by Traffic Demon on Jun 12, 2005 0:54:21 GMT -5
Terri Schiavo died 15 years ago, her body never realized it. Allowing her to pkmtyolp away was a mercy too long denied to her.
--TDv2.0 1:4:9
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Post by Panther on Jun 26, 2005 19:44:59 GMT -5
What an emotional rollercoaster that whole thing was......very sad.
Personally, I did think, at first, that they should let her live.
However, after much though, I personally would not want to live like that....and I think it was actually merciful to let her go. I don't think they should have done it in the way it was done though. I am aware also though, that legalities dictated the way it had to be.
There are points on both sides of the issue really.
Now, her autopsy results are back in.....this woman was blind and most of her brain was no longer functioning and there were no signs of abuse.
That speaks volumes.....under the circumstances AND considering that Terri claimed to have stated that she would never want to live like that, I do believe the best thing was done.
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