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Post by Onion on Jun 16, 2004 9:55:46 GMT -5
9/11 probe finds no Baghdad ties The statement was published as the bipartisan commission prepared to hold the final two-day public session. The hearings are to focus on how the attacks were planned and the federal government's immediate response. In April, commission members spoke in private to President George W Bush and his deputy Dick Cheney. A final report on the commission's findings is due on 28 July. The 11 September attacks killed nearly 3,000 people after members of Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network flew hijacked planes into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Closing circle This is the 12th time the commission has heard from witnesses in public. The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States said Wednesday's session would hear from several of the federal government's top law enforcement and intelligence experts on al-Qaeda and the 11 September plot. On Thursday, top military and civilian aviation officials - including General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - will testify about their agencies' responses to the attacks. In this final session, commissioners will be attempting to fill in the gaps in the timeline of events before and after the attacks, says the BBC's Daniel Lak in Washington. Mr Myers appearance on Thursday will be his second before the commission. "At this, the commission's final public hearing, we will attempt to close the circle," said commission chairman Thomas Kean. "We will look back to the roots and growth of al-Qaeda, its previous attacks on the United States, its financing and international support, and how it plotted such detailed and intricate attacks on our soil." "The commission will then turn again to the day of 11 September 2001, to examine how the federal government learned of and responded to the attacks. "The commission has to ask some important questions about that day," said vice-chairman Lee Hamilton. "What was federal government protocol for responding to attacks of the kind we experienced on 11 September? How well did our government respond that day? How is the federal government now prepared to respond, in the event of future attacks?" Among some of the commission's preliminary findings, is a report that the hijackers may have planned their attack for some months earlier than September, but postponed it after one of them was unable to take part. The commission investigating the 11 September 2001 attacks on the US has found no "credible evidence" that Iraq helped al-Qaeda carry them out. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3812351.stm As we all have been saying, The Bush-Cheney team lied to the American people and the world and greatly put at risk our beloved men, woman, sons and daughters of our fine military. It is time to remove them and their hold on power.
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Post by LauraJean on Jun 16, 2004 11:44:53 GMT -5
Would this be the same comission of which Jamie Gorelic, the person responsible for the wall of silence between CIA and FBI, is a member? This comission has credibility how??
From Neal Boortz:
SADDAM AND AL-QAEDA
In a speech yesterday, Vice President Dick Cheney said what has been known for a long time: Saddam Hussein has long-established ties with Al-Qaeda. Democrats and the media want to ignore this, mainly because it violates the template, which is burying any story that is seen to benefit George Bush. But the facts don't support their position.
"He was a patron of terrorism," said the Vice President. "He had long established contacts with Al-Qaeda." This is true...there is evidence of contacts between Saddam and Al-Qaeda stretching back for years. Even the interim prime minister says there were Al-Qaeda fighters in Iraq before Saddam's ouster, Al-Qaeda terrorist al-Zarqawi was known to have been establishing sleeper cells in Baghdad in late 2002. No link huh? This is the monster that sawed off Nick Berg's head...and was known to have been sheltered by Saddam Hussein.
Just like the weapons of pkmtyolm destruction, the left will never concede any link between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda. To do so would be to admit George Bush was right, and they will never, ever do that, no matter whose life depends on it. The facts will continue to emerge, and the left will continue to ignore those facts.
Oh ... and you do know that weapons of pkmtyolm destruction have been found, don't you?
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Post by Onion on Jun 16, 2004 12:48:26 GMT -5
Would this be the same comission of which Jamie Gorelic, the person responsible for the wall of silence between CIA and FBI, is a member? This comission has credibility how?? HOW TYPICAL!! Now the repubes claim no credibility in this commision. You know who has almost ZERO credibility NOT only here in the US but in the world? Bush-Cheney! thats who. I say almost zero cause there are still some blind ignorant people who can't or won't WAKE UP! Cheney said??? Cheney said??Mr Haliburton-who-controls- the-flow-of-billion-dollar-contracts-to-his-own-interest?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haCheney HAS NO PROOF!!! ZERO!! He LIED! Just like George Lied. they both Lied. EVEN after Jo Wilson and the CIA told them there were no connection between Al quida and Africa, Cheney STILL LIED! Thenw hat did he do? He outed Jo Wilson's wife as a CIA operative. OK Cheney's spokesperson, PROVE IT! CHeney is a liar! He too along with RUsha nd Bush will roast and toast in hell. Show us the facts. Come on, where are these facts? Show them? The commision has flatly stated that no links exists. So show what this commision doesn't know or is "refusing" to acknowledge. Come on what facts is this commision ignoring? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You mean some old cannister left from when Reagan and Rumsfled were arming Hussain? Ha ha ha ha you call that WMDs? Cheney Claimed Nuclear weapons. WHERE ARE THEY? Ha jha ha ha ha ha ah aha ha ha ha ah aha ha
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Post by MorningStar on Jun 16, 2004 16:38:52 GMT -5
In my opinion, neither have total credibility - everyone plays their own angle at one point or another. Politicians - BLEH
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Post by genesda on Jun 17, 2004 6:23:58 GMT -5
In my opinion, neither have total credibility - everyone plays their own angle at one point or another. Politicians - BLEH There is a connection if anyone wants to see it. Salman Pak is a good example. Terrorists were training there in an airliner fuselage to hijack airliners. Did we find anyone training there, no, but we have informers who told us that's what was happening there.
The evidence is there for those who want to face the truth, but the 9/11 commission is about electing Kerry, not finding truth.
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Post by LauraJean on Jun 17, 2004 12:02:02 GMT -5
More from Boortz:
We're starting to get some leaks about the contents of the 911 Commission report. Yesterday the Associated Press said that the report "bluntly contradicts" the Bush Administration's claims that Saddam Hussein was linked to the September 11th terrorist attacks. Now it is true that the 911 Commission report actually says that there was no evidence of a connection between Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. So ... what is my problem here? The problem is that the Bush administration never ... and I mean never made a claim that such a connection existed in the first place. In fact, George Bush has repeatedly said that there is no evidence that such a connection exists. This creates a bit of a question, then, about the AP story. How can the 911 Commission report "bluntly contradict" that claim that has never been made? There can be no "blunt contradiction" of a claim that has never been made. So, what did George Bush say? He said that there is no question that Saddam had Al Qaeda connections. The 911 Commission report, by the way, agrees.
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Post by LauraJean on Jun 17, 2004 14:46:46 GMT -5
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Post by genesda on Jun 18, 2004 8:45:28 GMT -5
But wait! There's more! From Andrew C. McCarthy: The 9/11 Commission raises more questions than it answers.www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mccarthy200406170840.asp Interesting and once again proves that the 9/11 commission is set up to elect Kerry and not get the facts. Anything that would help Bush is ignored by the media and the commission. [/color]
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Post by Onion on Jun 18, 2004 15:04:03 GMT -5
More from Boortz: The problem is that the Bush administration never ... and I mean never made a claim that such a connection existed in the first place. In fact, George Bush has repeatedly said that there is no evidence that such a connection exists. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haSo what is it? Now they are spinning Bush as if he said ONLY Al quida connection to Hussain? So let's see Bush lied about the Africa connection to Alquida in his State of teh Union Address. He was preapring long tiem to invade Iraq. Cheney INSISTED the CIA find some evidence, especially of Nuclear weapons. NONE FOUND!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah aha ha ha ha Yea, i guess all those republicans on the commitee arn't interested in truth, just electing Kerry! Ha ha ha ha This has got to be one of the most wackiest wackos tatements from you yet gene! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Post by atomheart on Jun 18, 2004 15:39:09 GMT -5
9/11 Chair Hamilton Slams Media Distortions Newsmax.com June 18, 2004 Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission Lee Hamilton blasted the mainstream press yesterday for distorting the Commission's findings on links between Iraq and al Qaida, saying those findings actually support Bush administration contentions. "The sharp differences that the press has drawn [between the White House and the Commission] are not that apparent to me," Hamilton told the Associated Press, a day after insisting that his probe uncovered "all kinds" of connections between Osama bin Laden's terror network and Iraq. Hamilton's comments followed a deluge of mainstream reports falsely claiming that the 9/11 Commission had discredited the Bush administration's claim of longstanding links between Baghdad and bin Laden.But the Indiana Democrat said the press accounts were flat-out wrong."There are all kinds of ties," he told PBS's "The News Hour" late Wednesday, in comments that establishment journalists have refused to report."There are all kinds of connections. And it may very well have been that Osama bin Laden or some of his lieutenants met at some time with Saddam Hussein's lieutenants." <full story> newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/18/92642.shtml
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Post by Onion on Jun 18, 2004 21:07:09 GMT -5
More from Boortz: We're starting to get some leaks about the contents of the 911 Commission report. Yesterday the Associated Press said that the report "bluntly contradicts" the Bush Administration's claims that Saddam Hussein was linked to the September 11th terrorist attacks. Now it is true that the 911 Commission report actually says that there was no evidence of a connection between Hussein and the 9/11 attacks. So ... what is my problem here? The problem is that the Bush administration never ... and I mean never made a claim that such a connection existed in the first place. In fact, George Bush has repeatedly said that there is no evidence that such a connection exists. This creates a bit of a question, then, about the AP story. How can the 911 Commission report "bluntly contradict" that claim that has never been made? There can be no "blunt contradiction" of a claim that has never been made. So, what did George Bush say? He said that there is no question that Saddam had Al Qaeda connections. The 911 Commission report, by the way, agrees. "President Bush today told soldiers newly returned from distant battlefields that the 9/11 terror attacks and the war in Iraq were inextricably linked." "Today, as he stood before a sea of uniformed soldiers, Mr. Bush said over and over again that 9/11 was the reason the United States had to go to war in Iraq more than a year ago." - www.nytimes.com/2004/06/18/politics/campaign/18CND-BUSH.html?hpSounds like a connection to me.
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Post by Onion on Jun 18, 2004 21:08:58 GMT -5
"may very well" ?? WOW, now that's some evidence.
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Post by genesda on Jun 21, 2004 7:55:03 GMT -5
9/11 Chair Hamilton Slams Media Distortions Newsmax.com June 18, 2004 Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission Lee Hamilton blasted the mainstream press yesterday for distorting the Commission's findings on links between Iraq and al Qaida, saying those findings actually support Bush administration contentions. "The sharp differences that the press has drawn [between the White House and the Commission] are not that apparent to me," Hamilton told the Associated Press, a day after insisting that his probe uncovered "all kinds" of connections between Osama bin Laden's terror network and Iraq. Hamilton's comments followed a deluge of mainstream reports falsely claiming that the 9/11 Commission had discredited the Bush administration's claim of longstanding links between Baghdad and bin Laden.But the Indiana Democrat said the press accounts were flat-out wrong."There are all kinds of ties," he told PBS's "The News Hour" late Wednesday, in comments that establishment journalists have refused to report."There are all kinds of connections. And it may very well have been that Osama bin Laden or some of his lieutenants met at some time with Saddam Hussein's lieutenants." Atom, only the blind or the stupid would believe there were no connections between Saddam and Al Qaeda. There is ample evidence that Saddam was helping Al Qeada if anyone wishes to see the truth. I also wouldn't be surprised to see later on that there were actually connections between Saddam and 9/11. It's just that there is no evidence at this time. [/color]
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Post by atomheart on Jun 21, 2004 8:57:44 GMT -5
9/11 Chair Hamilton Slams Media Distortions Newsmax.com June 18, 2004 Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission Lee Hamilton blasted the mainstream press yesterday for distorting the Commission's findings on links between Iraq and al Qaida, saying those findings actually support Bush administration contentions. "The sharp differences that the press has drawn [between the White House and the Commission] are not that apparent to me," Hamilton told the Associated Press, a day after insisting that his probe uncovered "all kinds" of connections between Osama bin Laden's terror network and Iraq. Hamilton's comments followed a deluge of mainstream reports falsely claiming that the 9/11 Commission had discredited the Bush administration's claim of longstanding links between Baghdad and bin Laden.But the Indiana Democrat said the press accounts were flat-out wrong."There are all kinds of ties," he told PBS's "The News Hour" late Wednesday, in comments that establishment journalists have refused to report."There are all kinds of connections. And it may very well have been that Osama bin Laden or some of his lieutenants met at some time with Saddam Hussein's lieutenants." Atom, only the blind or the stupid would believe there were no connections between Saddam and Al Qaeda. There is ample evidence that Saddam was helping Al Qeada if anyone wishes to see the truth. I also wouldn't be surprised to see later on that there were actually connections between Saddam and 9/11. It's just that there is no evidence at this time. [/color][/quote] Absolutely. Also it is said that there is actually some evidence that Saddam might be connected to the Oaklahoma city bombing. The so-called John Doe #2 was an Iraqi national. Also Timothy McVeigh was found with Iraqi phone numbers on him. Let the idiots with their heads in the sand talk and criticize all they want. Just be grateful that they are not in charge of things. If they were Saddam would still be in power and still be running his regime of terror.
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Post by genesda on Jun 21, 2004 11:10:47 GMT -5
Absolutely. Also it is said that there is actually some evidence that Saddam might be connected to the Oaklahoma city bombing. The so-called John Doe #2 was an Iraqi national. Also Timothy McVeigh was found with Iraqi phone numbers on him. Let the idiots with their heads in the sand talk and criticize all they want. Just be grateful that they are not in charge of things. If they were Saddam would still be in power and still be running his regime of terror. The sad thing is that the polls right now are about 50-50. That means half of the people in this country are either stupid or greatly misinformed. If Algore or Kerry were president in 2001, Saddam would still be in Kuwait, not just terrorizing his own people. He might even be in Saudi Arabia by now. I'll never understand how people can be so blind. [/color]
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