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Algore
May 29, 2004 18:33:03 GMT -5
Post by atomheart on May 29, 2004 18:33:03 GMT -5
Simple. They ignore it because being blind to the truth supports what they wish to believe. Who's ignoring it? Everyone knows that Al Gore won the popular vote. And everyone knows, (except you two apparently) that the electoral collage decides the winner. Bush is NOT the first president to lose the popular but win the election. John Quincy Adams is another. Here's a little more insight on how this works....... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- How can Gore win the popular and lose the electoral vote? It's not the economy, sonny, it's the states. A state's electors is equal to the total number of Senators and Representatives. So each state has 2 more votes than its proportionate population. When the popular vote is so close, the number of STATES won becomes decisive. If early returns are confirmed on recount, Gov. Bush wins 31 states (61%), Vice-President Gore wins 19 and DC. Those 11 extra states in the Bush column convert to 22 additional electoral votes, which will be the winning margin for Gov. Bush. Is it fair? No less fair than the U.S. Senate, which gives every state 2 Senators regardless of its population. In the 2000 election, the popular vote goes one way, but the state vote goes the other way, in landslide proportions! And it is only due to the state landslide that Gov. Bush has a chance. If Vice-President Gore squeezes out a win in Florida, he will win the Presidency having carried the lowest percentage of states (41%) of any President. Kennedy carried 46% of the states in 1960 and Carter carried 47% in 1976. As is always the case, the Electoral College punishes the candidate that appeals to a limited region of the country. If you look at the electoral map, you can see that Bush succeeded in winning states in every region (with the help of Mr. Nader). Without Florida, Gore has no states in the South or the Mountain West. Again--no accident. The Electoral College is doing just what it is designed to do. source:http://www.avagara.com/e_c/
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Algore
May 31, 2004 2:14:14 GMT -5
Post by Kee on May 31, 2004 2:14:14 GMT -5
As is always the case, the Electoral College punishes the candidate that appeals to a limited region of the country. So basically this is saying it supports the part of the country that has it's head up their backside and/or supports a bunch of conniving crooks at the expense of the common and hard sweat working public?
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Algore
May 31, 2004 9:52:10 GMT -5
Post by atomheart on May 31, 2004 9:52:10 GMT -5
So basically this is saying it supports the part of the country that has it's head up their backside and/or supports a bunch of conniving crooks at the expense of the common and hard sweat working public? <Edited by donkeydude>
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Algore
May 31, 2004 11:10:39 GMT -5
Post by Kee on May 31, 2004 11:10:39 GMT -5
Ha,ha,ha... I appreciate the chuckle Oh gosh atom...what's bothering you so much anymore? You suddenly despise me over political preferances? Or is it more that I was in agreement with Onion and thus you loathe me also?
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Algore
May 31, 2004 20:30:21 GMT -5
Post by atomheart on May 31, 2004 20:30:21 GMT -5
Ha,ha,ha... I appreciate the chuckle Oh gosh atom...what's bothering you so much anymore? You suddenly despise me over political preferances? Or is it more that I was in agreement with Onion and thus you loathe me also? Oh the nervous, phony laugh. You know Im right. Im spot on when I say the things I say to you. And I get so much enjoyment out of tearing you to pieces!! Will you cry yourself to sleep tonight for me??
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Algore
May 31, 2004 22:02:10 GMT -5
Post by Kee on May 31, 2004 22:02:10 GMT -5
Oh the nervous, phony laugh. You know Im right. Huh? I never post false statements atom. You should know that by now. I say what I mean and mean what I say, but heh.... if what you p need to do is to lie to yourself, then by all means.... be my guest. Spot on about what? Your anger and self hate? Yea.... it sticks out for sure. Tearing me to peices. Oh honey.... you are not really a match. What makes you think I am suffering? This is YOUR ILLUSION baby.... You are a sexless, depressed and lonely man. Sorry, but right now.... frank honesty is the best policy. You would have to find your heart and learn to be more human before I would.
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Algore
May 31, 2004 22:06:08 GMT -5
Post by atomheart on May 31, 2004 22:06:08 GMT -5
Huh? I never post false statements atom. You should know that by now. I say what I mean and mean what I say, but heh.... if what you need to do is to lie to yourself, then by all means.... be my guest. Spot on about what? Your anger and self hate? Yea.... it sticks out for sure. Tearing me to peices. Oh honey.... you are not really a match. What makes you think I am suffering? This is YOUR ILLUSION baby.... You are a sexless, depressed and lonely man. Sorry, but right now.... frank honesty is the best policy. You would have to find your and heart and learn to be more human before I would. Your again under the illusion that you know me. Sexless?? That IS funny!! Im no match for you? Come on, let's find out.
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Algore
May 31, 2004 22:09:17 GMT -5
Post by Kee on May 31, 2004 22:09:17 GMT -5
Your again under the illusion that you know me. Sexless?? That IS funny!! Im no match for you? Come on, let's find out. You want to play? Play what? Amateur hateful games? So far, this is all that you offer.
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Algore
May 31, 2004 22:14:50 GMT -5
Post by atomheart on May 31, 2004 22:14:50 GMT -5
You want to play? Play what? Amateur hateful games? So far, this is all that you offer. And don't you wish you could offer a little more to those around you. Too bad that is not the case. <Edited by AuntRonda>
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Algore
May 31, 2004 22:46:32 GMT -5
Post by MorningStar on May 31, 2004 22:46:32 GMT -5
Are you two going to ruin every
<Edited by AuntRonda>
thread?
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Algore
Jun 1, 2004 6:33:43 GMT -5
Post by genesda on Jun 1, 2004 6:33:43 GMT -5
The people did elect Al Gore. More people went out and voted for Al Gore on November 2, 2000. With or without Florida that fact is true. It is the flawed electoral system that elected George W. Bush. The people spoke and the system ignored them. This is crazy. We don't know if Algore really had more popular votes than Bush because there were many states where the votes could have been challenged. What we do know is that Bush won Florida and the election. Elections in this country are not based on the popular vote, but on the electorial college, which is the fair way to tally the votes.
You sound like you're sad because Algore's attempt to steal the Florida election failed. Even Democrats were glad Algore lost after 9/11.
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Algore
Jun 1, 2004 6:35:05 GMT -5
Post by genesda on Jun 1, 2004 6:35:05 GMT -5
That ranks up there with top ten most bigoted things I have ever heard. Not every one of the Islamic faith is a terrorist or hates America. It is attitudes like this that give our country the poor image that it has in others. Being a Muslim doesn't make a person any more of a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer than a Christian. It's not Christians that are blowing people up with car bombs. [/color]
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Algore
Jun 1, 2004 6:37:35 GMT -5
Post by genesda on Jun 1, 2004 6:37:35 GMT -5
How can you call your self a christian with all this hate seething from your post? Have you met every single muslim on the planet? Have you been to any large muslim gatherings? How do you know that muslims think about political issues? Christians started the crusades. Christians bomb abortion centers. ALL extremists are equally wrong. The fact that terrorists are muslims doesn't make ALL muslims terrorists. All the terrorists have brown hair and legs. By your faulty logic, that means all people with brown hair and legs are terrorists too. He didn't say every single Muslim. He stated facts. [/color]
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Algore
Jun 1, 2004 6:40:24 GMT -5
Post by genesda on Jun 1, 2004 6:40:24 GMT -5
BUSH: 50,456,169 GORE: 50,996,116 Gore beats Bush by 539,937 in the national popular. More people went out to vote for Al Gore on election day. No denying that. Bush won because of a flawed electoral system that ignors the will of the people. Florida aside more people voted for Al Gore how can you ignor that? Thank God Bush won!! [/color]
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Algore
Jun 1, 2004 6:45:06 GMT -5
Post by genesda on Jun 1, 2004 6:45:06 GMT -5
Simple. They ignore it because being blind to the truth supports what they wish to believe. So what? Blind is to not see a system that works as good today as it has since this country was formed. You're just upset because Algore couldn't steal the election in Florida, which is what the Democrats tried to do.
I could never support that kind of attitude. That's what the communists do, which is where they found a new home. The news media should be called "Pravda". [/color]
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