Algore

[genesda]

How many heard that idiot squeeling at that rally yesterday?

How many are not ashamed that they almost elected that fool for the presidency?

I would never have voted for him and he has proven that those of us who voted for Bush made the right choice.

I wonder what his wife says about him making a fool of himself the way he does?

Now comes the issue of Kerry. How many will vote for that flip flopper and wish they hadn't IF he is elected?
He will advance terrorism as a president by his lack of understanding of the situation america faces.

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[marysia]

i have to admit, although i heard only replays, i was thankful i did not vote for that man. some of the things he said were so ridiculously over the top, i was embapkmtyolred to have voted for him the first time around! he reminded me of kerry when he commented something like - only veterans need apply. where was that comment when he was running with clinton? where was he during the first trade center bombing? the USS Cole bombing? even when osama was a gift ready to be opened?!
now living in the south, i can relate more to the comment someone made about his trying to sound like a Southern Baptist preacher. the only difference -- the preachers are more earnest in their beliefs and speak of Godly things.

[kingsdaughter]

The fact that the muslams want Kerry to win is enough for me not vote for him. ( not that I was) The only reason they want him to win is because they know he is weak and will roll over and play dead if they so much as say BOO!!!!!! That is real scary. ysic Pam

[marysia]

kingsdaughter said:

The fact that the muslams want Kerry to win is enough for me not vote for him. ( not that I was) The only reason they want him to win is because they know he is weak and will roll over and play dead if they so much as say BOO!!!!!! That is real scary. ysic Pam

although i don't know if i agree 100% i do agree to an extent. from what i garner from those i know overseas at this time -- what they are hearing and getting from "them" about him is he is weak and will roll over. all the negative press and biased media is doing nothing but fueling "their" fire. i agree 100% that he is IMHO not the right man to finish the job. kerry, just like gore the other night -- will try to take on a personna that they feel is what people want at the given time. that is one thing that always stuck me about bush. even when he was only seeking the nomination -- he was so genuine. he did not put on airs.

[genesda]

marysia said:

although i don't know if i agree 100% i do agree to an extent. from what i garner from those i know overseas at this time -- what they are hearing and getting from "them" about him is he is weak and will roll over. all the negative press and biased media is doing nothing but fueling "their" fire. i agree 100% that he is IMHO not the right man to finish the job. kerry, just like gore the other night -- will try to take on a personna that they feel is what people want at the given time. that is one thing that always stuck me about bush. even when he was only seeking the nomination -- he was so genuine. he did not put on airs.

Did you ever stop and think that those who support Kerry are really afraid of the truth and want someone who tells them what they want to hear?
After all, what he says depends on which group he is speaking to.
He's on every side of every issue depending on where he is speaking!.

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[donkeydude]

genesda said:

How many are not ashamed that they almost elected that fool for the presidency?

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The people did elect Al Gore. More people went out and voted for Al Gore on November 2, 2000. With or without Florida that fact is true. It is the flawed electoral system that elected George W. Bush. The people spoke and the system ignored them.

[donkeydude]

kingsdaughter said:

The fact that the muslams want Kerry to win is enough for me not vote for him. ( not that I was) The only reason they want him to win is because they know he is weak and will roll over and play dead if they so much as say BOO!!!!!! That is real scary. ysic Pam

That ranks up there with top ten most bigoted things I have ever heard. Not every one of the Islamic faith is a terrorist or hates America. It is attitudes like this that give our country the poor image that it has in others. Being a Muslim doesn't make a person any more of a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer than a Christian.

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donkeydude said:

That ranks up there with top ten most bigoted things I have ever heard. Not every one of the Islamic faith is a terrorist or hates America. It is attitudes like this that give our country the poor image that it has in others. Being a Muslim doesn't make a person any more of a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer than a Christian.

Sure they are! I didn't hear the Muslim community condeming the terrorist. I can't recall seeing a "Allah bless America" rally in the Muslim community. I didn't hear ONE Muslim leader or cleric condemning the Nicholas Berg beheading. So don't give me this BS that Christian extremist are as bad as Muslims.

It wasn't Christians that flew two airliners into the WTC. It wasn't Christians who bombed the USS Cole. It wasn't Christians who beheaded Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg. Christians are being slaughtered by the THOUSANDS and put into slavery in Sudan by........you guessed it, Muslim extremist.

Wow, and you call yourself a Christian?

Give me a break!!

[atomheart]

Al Gore or Al Jazeera?


FrontPageMagazine.com
By David Horowitz and Ben Johnson
May 27, 2004

Excerpt:

The latest front in the War on Terrorism was opened yesterday – by former Vice President Al Gore. At a critical juncture in the War on Terror, with the handover of sovereignty to the Iraqi Governing Council just weeks away, Gore appeared before the MoveOn.org, a radical group which had already compared Bush to Hitler. In a voice trembling with affected pkmtyolpion, Gore indicted the President for seeking world domination, referred to Abu Ghraib as Bush’s “gulag,” accused the President of “war crimes,” and intimated that he was a murderer. Gore also accused the war criminal of denying civil rights to terrorists and subverting American democracy, asserted there was no connection between the Saddam regime and terror, and declared for the third time this year the commander-in-chief had “betrayed” the American people.

According to Gore, this betrayal was co-terminous with the Administration itself. “To begin with, from its earliest days in power, this administration sought to radically destroy the foreign policy consensus that had guided America since the end of World War II.” In fact, it was Gore himself and Jimmy Carter who broke the consensus when they attacked Bush days after he went to the U.N. to seek what became a unanimous Security resolution on Iraq, thus launching the partisan battle over the war that has consumed the domestic political debate for the last year and a half, and sabotaged the war on terror in the process.

This was not the only history that Gore attempted to rewrite, as he claimed that, “the long successful strategy of containment was abandoned in favor of the new strategy of ‘preemption.’” Successful? There were five attacks on America by the terrorist enemy on Gore’s watch, beginning with the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 -- all of which went unanswered, which might well explain why al-Qaeda felt emboldened enough to undertake the attacks of 9/11. Containment? Saddam Hussein had tossed the UN inspectors out of Iraq with impunity when the Clinton Administration was too preoccupied with Monica Lewinsky to care. Only Bush's "pre-emptive" extrusion of 100,000 American troops onto the borders of Iraq caused Saddam to change his tune.

“More disturbing still,” Gore continued, “was (the Bush administration’s) frequent use of the word ‘dominance’ to describe their strategic goal, because an American policy of dominance is as repugnant to the rest of the world as the ugly dominance of the helpless, naked Iraqi prisoners has been to the American people.” This Marxoid prose was old hat to Gore, who was bellowing nearly two years ago that Bush’s foreign policy was “based on an openly proclaimed intention to dominate the world.” Shades of the Great Satan.

Echoing al-Jazeera, Gore fantasized pkmtyolmive prisoner abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan, then called the president a pkmtyolm murderer. “George Bush promised to change the tone in Washington,” Gore said. “And indeed he did. As many as 37 prisoners may have been murdered while in captivity, though the numbers are difficult to rely upon because in many cases involving violent death, there were no autopsies.” To date, the Army has not affirmed that a single prisoner death has been caused by American troops. Yet Gore can rant – reviving a trope devised by Teddy Kennedy --: “How dare they subject us to such dishonor and disgrace! How dare they drag the good name of the United States of America through the mud of Saddam Hussein's torture prison!”

In his attack on the Administration for flouting international law in regard to the terrorists it is holding, Gore overlooks one vital fact: the Geneva Convention does not protect terrorists; it applies only to captured military personnel. Terrorists represent no state and, therefore are not signatories to these accords nor, as the beheading of Nicholas Berg gruesomely reminds us do they observe them. Thus, the military need not accord them these protections. As Berkeley law professor John Yoo noted in the Wall Street Journal, “Applying different standards to al-Qaeda does not abandon Geneva, but only recognizes that the U.S. faces a stateless enemy never contemplated in the Conventions.” But a man who required three recounts and a Supreme Court ruling before conceding defeat is probably not impressed by such arguments.

Gore expressed pkmtyolpionate concern for the “victims” of American dominance, particularly the terrorist enemy incarcerated at Abu Ghraib, and pointed the finger directly at the President. “What happened at the prison,” Gore thundered, “was not the result of random acts by ‘a few bad apples’; it was the natural consequence of the Bush administration policy that has dismantled those wise constraints and has made war on America's checks and balances.” (Speaking of checks and balances, during the Clinton administration an elderly couple named Glenn and Patricia Mendoza told President Clinton, “You suck, and those boys died!” referring to the soldiers killed in the Khobar Towers attack, about which Clinton and Gore did nothing. Clinton had them arrested for “threatening” him. Gore’s protest of this abuse of executive power has not been recorded.)

Of course, the Army had launched multiple investigations immediately on learning of the incidents at Abu Ghraib (and well before Gore was aware of them); the jail’s presiding officer, General Janis Karpinski, currently has a lawyer as her constant travel companion and President Bush has made an unprecedented presidential apology to Arabs for infractions that are minor compared to what normally goes on in Arab jails. But Al Gore is outraged. The cognitive dissonance is impressive.

And it does not end:

It is now clear that [the Bush Administration’s] obscene abuses of the truth and their unforgivable abuse of the trust placed in them after 9/11 by the American people led directly to the abuses of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison and, we are now learning, in many other similar facilities constructed as part of Bush's Gulag, in which, according to the Red Cross, 70 to 90 percent of the victims are totally innocent of any wrongdoing. (Emphasis added.)

The Red Cross in fact made no such statement. It launched no investigation into the matter whatsoever. Secondly, the statement that it did make, we should remind ourselves is a statement by a component of the Red Cross -- the Red Crescent, which is the Middle Eastern version of the Red Cross -- that has allowed its ambulances to be used by Palestinian terrorists. But then it is appropriate that this Al Gore, the Alpha Gore who has come out of the closet as a raving leftist, should rely on such sources for his indictment of Americans.

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Wow, thank God Bush "stole" the election.

[keikikoka]

Sure they are! I didn't hear the Muslim community condeming the terrorist. I can't recall seeing a "Allah bless America" rally in the Muslim community. I didn't hear ONE Muslim leader or cleric condemning the Nicholas Berg beheading. So don't give me this BS that Christian extremist are as bad as Muslims.

It wasn't Christians that flew two airliners into the WTC. It wasn't Christians who bombed the USS Cole. It wasn't Christians who beheaded Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg. Christians are being slaughtered by the THOUSANDS and put into slavery in Sudan by........you guessed it, Muslim extremist.

Wow, and you call yourself a Christian?

How can you call your self a christian with all this hate seething from your post?

Have you met every single muslim on the planet? Have you been to any large muslim gatherings? How do you know that muslims think about political issues?

Christians started the crusades. Christians bomb abortion centers. ALL extremists are equally wrong. The fact that terrorists are muslims doesn't make ALL muslims terrorists. All the terrorists have brown hair and legs. By your faulty logic, that means all people with brown hair and legs are terrorists too.

[Ben johnson]

The people did elect Al Gore. More people went out and voted for Al Gore on November 2, 2000. With or without Florida that fact is true. It is the flawed electoral system that elected George W. Bush. The people spoke and the system ignored them

Really! And --- how many MILITARY ABSENTEE BALLETS were counted in Florida? These people Are WILLING to give their LIVES for our country (many DO), they are CLOSE to millitary perspectives and UNDERSTAND things that civilians don't; and then they VOTE --- how many were COUNTED? They were IGNORED and NOT COUNTED!!!!!

The Florida election was rigged; this is not an oppinion, it is a fact. I have inside information on the subject, from one who is highly placed, whose name I am not at liberty to cite (everyone would instantly know him or her).

It was RIGGED for the DEMOCRATS!

But they messed up in their rigging!

I am also convinced that the New York election of Hillary was ALSO rigged --- but I do not have inside information on that...

It was not the "flawed electoral system" that elected Bush; it was the CORRUPTED system that nearly elected GORE --- busloads of illegal voters shipped in to vote, THOUSANDS of valid military absentee ballets for Bush IGNORED!!!!!

That all of the terrorist organizations want Bush to fail the next election should be MORE than sufficient reason to want him re-elected...

[stevec]

Well, ben, I live in south FL and, although I don't have any evidence or first-hand knowledge, I can tell you it was quite obvious to those of us that live here that you are correct. There was a rush the day before and day of the election to get likely democrats to register to vote, even if they weren't quite legal voters (or even legal residents, for that matter). I have seen the Broward and Palm Beach County ballots up close and personal and I can tell you, you would have to be illiterate to misunderstand them. Events after the election (hanging chads and all that) were even worse. Democrats were caught stuffing ballot boxes with Gore votes, disposing of republican and absentee military ballots, roughing up ballots with "Gore" hanging chads to knock the chads loose, the list goes on.... Funny, most of this stuff never made it past the local news; you never saw it on the national news. Gee, I wonder why?



*Note: I live in southwest Florida, and I know how to use a ballot (you just punch the hole marked "Bush" ;D).

[donkeydude]

Ben said:

Really! And --- how many MILITARY ABSENTEE BALLETS were counted in Florida? These people Are WILLING to give their LIVES for our country (many DO), they are CLOSE to millitary perspectives and UNDERSTAND things that civilians don't; and then they VOTE --- how many were COUNTED? They were IGNORED and NOT COUNTED!!!!!

The Florida election was rigged; this is not an oppinion, it is a fact. I have inside information on the subject, from one who is highly placed, whose name I am not at liberty to cite (everyone would instantly know him or her).

It was RIGGED for the DEMOCRATS!

But they messed up in their rigging!

I am also convinced that the New York election of Hillary was ALSO rigged --- but I do not have inside information on that...

It was not the "flawed electoral system" that elected Bush; it was the CORRUPTED system that nearly elected GORE --- busloads of illegal voters shipped in to vote, THOUSANDS of valid military absentee ballets for Bush IGNORED!!!!!

That all of the terrorist organizations want Bush to fail the next election should be MORE than sufficient reason to want him re-elected...

BUSH: 50,456,169

GORE: 50,996,116

Gore beats Bush by 539,937 in the national popular. More people went out to vote for Al Gore on election day. No denying that. Bush won because of a flawed electoral system that ignors the will of the people. Florida aside more people voted for Al Gore how can you ignor that?

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keikikoka said:

How can you call your self a christian with all this hate seething from your post?

Have you met every single muslim on the planet? Have you been to any large muslim gatherings? How do you know that muslims think about political issues?

Christians started the crusades. Christians bomb abortion centers. ALL extremists are equally wrong. The fact that terrorists are muslims doesn't make ALL muslims terrorists. All the terrorists have brown hair and legs. By your faulty logic, that means all people with brown hair and legs are terrorists too.

Who said I was a Christian? Yes, Christians have done acts of terrorism but not anywhere NEAR the scale of the Muslims.

Just right now as I write this Im hearing about a bombing by Al-Qaeda (who are not Christian BTW) which killed 16 including 1 American.

And I never said that all Muslims are terrorists either.

[Kee]

donkeydude said:

BUSH: 50,456,169

GORE: 50,996,116

Gore beats Bush by 539,937 in the national popular. More people went out to vote for Al Gore on election day. No denying that. Bush won because of a flawed electoral system that ignors the will of the people. Florida aside more people voted for Al Gore how can you ignor that?

Simple. They ignore it because being blind to the truth supports what they wish to believe.