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Post by marysia on Apr 26, 2004 10:44:56 GMT -5
I think you've confused Iraq with Afghanistan. actually from what the guys there are saying in letters and emails home -- no sir -- schools, water, hospitals, etc -- all moving forward. some of the kids are upset the guys can't play ball or soccer with them anymore now that the fighting is back in more pronounced stages again.
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Post by MorningStar on Apr 26, 2004 10:47:54 GMT -5
Its a split like everything else is in the world I'd imagine. Some want us there, some want us gone, and I bet some don't really care.
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Post by RealistState on Apr 26, 2004 18:59:19 GMT -5
actually from what the guys there are saying in letters and emails home -- no sir -- schools, water, hospitals, etc -- all moving forward. some of the kids are upset the guys can't play ball or soccer with them anymore now that the fighting is back in more pronounced stages again. Mary... Prior to the war in Iraq, there were hospitals, business, and education. Granted, since Saddam Hussein's regime was secular, mosy of it was centered around Bagdad (and the Sunni minority). He also had no issue with educating women. All this despite the sanctions imposed on his government. The shortages were in the north (predominantly Kurds) and the south (predominately Shiite) where there was no love loss for Saddam. Most of his post-Gulf War 1 wrath was incurred on these two groups for thier support of the coalition forces. Hence, the intoruduction of the "No-Fly" zones to protect them. Those areas were definitely deteriorated. The re-building now is in all areas now....some that had it, and were destroyed by this war, and those that did not have it that were destroyed by Saddam in retribution to the Shiite and Kurd "disloyalty" from the first Gulf War.
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Post by Kee on Apr 26, 2004 20:39:51 GMT -5
Which lies would those be? Could you be a little more specific, or be specific at all? [/color][/quote] Read The Sorrows of Empire, by Chalmers Johnson, IF you have the guts. It's filled with more specifics than you can dare imagine. His bibliography alone stretches from page 316 to 366 -- broken down by chapter -- all sources referenced and accountable.
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Post by marysia on Apr 27, 2004 7:29:16 GMT -5
Mary... Prior to the war in Iraq, there were hospitals, business, and education. Granted, since Saddam Hussein's regime was secular, mosy of it was centered around Bagdad (and the Sunni minority). He also had no issue with educating women. All this despite the sanctions imposed on his government. The shortages were in the north (predominantly Kurds) and the south (predominately Shiite) where there was no love loss for Saddam. Most of his post-Gulf War 1 wrath was incurred on these two groups for thier support of the coalition forces. Hence, the intoruduction of the "No-Fly" zones to protect them. Those areas were definitely deteriorated. The re-building now is in all areas now....some that had it, and were destroyed by this war, and those that did not have it that were destroyed by Saddam in retribution to the Shiite and Kurd "disloyalty" from the first Gulf War. hiya rs -- hope you are well!! i agree that there were hospitals, however know what was going on in a lot of them -- killing of elderly, chemical testing, chemical weapon creations. they would also have state sanctioned stonings & hangings at which were all the students and employees of the state -- called to order in the middle of the square to watch. there were many other stories told and regaled to people in the Detroit Free Press (www.freep.com). there is a huge number of folks from that area who fled here -- giving up everything to come away from him. if you've ever been in a "traditional" setting -- it's VERY difficult for the older men to come to grips with their women -- even those that are educated by their family are often "shut up" by their husbands - many of which are still the old fashioned arranged marriages. in regards to the shiites and kurds - there is a feud that will be forever -- just like our old fashioned hatfields and mccoys! i mean - it's pretty much what they are. from my understanding of people that were there -- it's pretty much the division of family one way adn the priests the other when Mohammad died. have a lovely tuesday!!
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