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Post by genesda on Mar 18, 2004 11:57:11 GMT -5
I KNOW who those leaders were Kerry was talking too! Could they possibly be people like: 1. pkmtyolyar Arafat 2. The King of Saudi arabia 3. The Ayatollah of Iran 4. The King of Jordan Just to name a few of those "leaders" Heres the plan: Turn the US allies against us. Kill as many Americans, civilians & soldiers, in Iraq and other parts of the world as possible between now and the elections in November so that Kerry will be elected. Hold off on attacking the USA until after November. If Kerry is elected in November, he won't have the have what it takes to deal with these barbarians and will roll over and give these people whatever they want, namely Israel. The world community will then appease Islamic terrorists in hopes they will leave them alone. Beth, I'm glad we can completely agree on something. Kerry is a disaster for the USA and I find it hard to believe he has so many supporters. I guess the dumbing down of school children has led to many ignorant voting age people, plus the 60's hippies that are Kerry's people. I hope they don't outnumber the sensible voters in November. You can take this to mean Kerry supporters are not sensible. [/color]
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Post by RealistState on Mar 18, 2004 21:34:03 GMT -5
Or Weapons of pkmtyolm Destruction.... You lioberals are going to have to find a new song to sing. The facts are: 1. saddam had WMD's.
2. That was confirmed and BELIEVED by the U.N., USA, Britain, Germany, France, and a host of other nations.
3. Saddam ADMITTED that he had them.
4. Saddam's sons-in-law were executed for giving the information about WMD's to the world.
Bush was the victim of a weakened C.I.A. intelligence because of liberals like Clinton, Algore and Kerry.
The question you and other liberals should be asking is "where are the WMD's", because they DID IN FACT EXIST! Hating Bush is more important to liberals than national security and this is more obvious every day. Instead you want to call Bush a liar, when he didn't, and that's just partisian lies being told about Bush.
We haven't had a president in a long time who was as honest as Bush is now. Kerry is lying every day and the partisian press just reports his lies as though they were facts. I truly believe if Kerry were president when Bush won, Saddam would still be in Kuwait. His statements indicate this every time he opens his mouth.
[/color][/quote] [glow=red,2,300]LOL![/glow] What makes you assume that my political leaning is liberal (as if it is some type of dirty word). If you really must know, I'm a registered Republican. But my political leanings are more libertarian. One more thing, I work in the defense industry, so I may know a little more about national security than you think I do.
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Post by RealistState on Mar 18, 2004 21:39:17 GMT -5
Where's the link for this? I'm not aware of the link. He says this at meetings. I heard him say this on a tape that Rush has on his program. Try WWW.Rushlimbaugh.com and look around. He played it from his radio show from 3/17/04. It was Kerry saying that. The man is a liar, and the TRUE liar between himself and Bush. The man flip flops on every issue. If you haven't witnessed this by now, I don't know what to say to you.
[/color][/quote] Unfortunately this is a "pay" web site. I really don't want to pay $39.95 to research your quote.
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Post by RodP on Mar 18, 2004 21:57:57 GMT -5
Unfortunately this is a "pay" web site. I really don't want to pay $39.95 to research your quote. Shame we can't just toss a few OC's instead.
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Post by RealistState on Mar 18, 2004 22:04:07 GMT -5
Beth, I'm glad we can completely agree on something. Kerry is a disaster for the USA and I find it hard to believe he has so many supporters. I guess the dumbing down of school children has led to many ignorant voting age people, plus the 60's hippies that are Kerry's people. I hope they don't outnumber the sensible voters in November. You can take this to mean Kerry supporters are not sensible. [/color][/quote] How do you feel about this...it was written shortly after the first Gulf War: Today, thank God, Kuwait is free. But turmoil in that tormented region of the world continues. Saddam's continued savagery has placed his regime outside the international order. We will not interfere in Iraq's civil war. Iraqi people must decide their own political future.
Looking out here at you and thinking of your families, let me comment a little further. We set our objectives. These objectives, sanctioned by international law, have been achieved. I made very clear that when our objectives were obtained that our troops would be coming home. And yes, we want the suffering of those refugees to stop, and in keeping with our nation's compkmtyolpion and concern, we are pkmtyolmively helping. But yes, I want our troops out of Iraq and back home as soon as possible.
Internal conflicts have been raging in Iraq for many years. And we're helping out, and we're going to continue to help these refugees. But I do not want one single soldier or airman shoved into a civil war in Iraq that's been going on for ages. And I'm not going to have that.
I know the coalition's historic effort destroyed Saddam's ability to undertake aggression against any neighbor. You did that job. But now the international community will further guarantee that Saddam's ability to threaten his neighbors is completely eliminated by destroying Iraq's weapons of pkmtyolm destruction.
Interesting, don't you think?
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Post by donkeydude on Mar 19, 2004 1:05:06 GMT -5
Genesda, why not try using some scholarly sources to support your arguments instead of the extremely partisan sources that you fall back on every time? Rush Limbaugh makes a living out of energizing conservatives and angering liberals. He is going to say what ever he needs to make that happen. I am not going to argue about who to vote for with you, because you simply aren't capable of seeing things outside of your bubble. That’s your prerogative. What I do take offense to is the statement you made saying the John Kerry's supporters aren't sensible people. That statement shows your ignorance and lack of respect for the rights that so many men and women have died to protect. I really don't know whether to compare your statements of late to McCarthyism or Fascism. You are entitled to your opinion; but for the ideals of this country, that you claim to love so dearly, to hold true you must respect the opinions of others as well.
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 5:46:20 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]LOL![/glow] What makes you assume that my political leaning is liberal (as if it is some type of dirty word). It is a dirty word. It describes people who are vile and destructive. [/color] If you really must know, I'm a registered Republican. But my political leanings are more libertarian. If it walks and quacks like a duck, it is...... [/color] One more thing, I work in the defense industry, so I may know a little more about national security than you think I do. Being able to do one's job doesn't make them authorities in their field. The bottom line is what counts. Saddam had them. Where are they? I detest the lies liberals and whatever else they call themselves, are spreading about the president, and they are lies. You may not agree with Bush, but he is the only one who had what it takes to pursue the murders of 9/11, and Saddam's hands are right in the middle of it too. If Bush is voted out in favor of Kerry in November, that will say a lot about America and where we are headed. [/color]
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 5:49:40 GMT -5
Unfortunately this is a "pay" web site. I really don't want to pay $39.95 to research your quote. There's lots of free stuff there too. You don't have to pay for everything. Besides, it's $40.00 for a whole year., and well worth the money for a constant source of truth and commentary. Rush makes no excuse for him being in this for the money, but he has truths that you never see on the evening news. [/color]
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 5:51:08 GMT -5
Shame we can't just toss a few OC's instead. I see you're aware of the street name for what he was addicted to. Do you use them too? Don't bother answering. [/color]
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 5:53:22 GMT -5
How do you feel about this...it was written shortly after the first Gulf War: Today, thank God, Kuwait is free. But turmoil in that tormented region of the world continues. Saddam's continued savagery has placed his regime outside the international order. We will not interfere in Iraq's civil war. Iraqi people must decide their own political future.
Looking out here at you and thinking of your families, let me comment a little further. We set our objectives. These objectives, sanctioned by international law, have been achieved. I made very clear that when our objectives were obtained that our troops would be coming home. And yes, we want the suffering of those refugees to stop, and in keeping with our nation's compkmtyolpion and concern, we are pkmtyolmively helping. But yes, I want our troops out of Iraq and back home as soon as possible.
Internal conflicts have been raging in Iraq for many years. And we're helping out, and we're going to continue to help these refugees. But I do not want one single soldier or airman shoved into a civil war in Iraq that's been going on for ages. And I'm not going to have that.
I know the coalition's historic effort destroyed Saddam's ability to undertake aggression against any neighbor. You did that job. But now the international community will further guarantee that Saddam's ability to threaten his neighbors is completely eliminated by destroying Iraq's weapons of pkmtyolm destruction.
Interesting, don't you think? In what sense? Please explain yourself. [/color]
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Post by RealistState on Mar 19, 2004 6:02:05 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]LOL![/glow] What makes you assume that my political leaning is liberal (as if it is some type of dirty word). It is a dirty word. It describes people who are vile and destructive. [/color][/quote] Voters Rights for Blacks, Medicare/Medicaid, Peace Corp...all "vile and destructive". [/color][/quote] Sad that you know nothing of what a libertarian stands for.... [/color][/quote] Actually, I'm considered an expert in my field. I also have considerable knowledge on National Defense. [/color][/quote] As with most bullies, it may turn out to be alot of bluff and blunder on Saddam's part. [/color][/quote] One would assume that you would detest all liars, not just liberal ones! [/color][/quote] Than you have more information than the President does since even they admit they do not have a direct link to 9/11 and Saddam. [/color][/quote] If Kerry wins, it proves the democratic process works.
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 6:02:43 GMT -5
Genesda, why not try using some scholarly sources to support your arguments instead of the extremely partisan sources that you fall back on every time? Rush Limbaugh makes a living out of energizing conservatives and angering liberals. He is going to say what ever he needs to make that happen. I am not going to argue about who to vote for with you, because you simply aren't capable of seeing things outside of your bubble. That’s your prerogative. What I do take offense to is the statement you made saying the John Kerry's supporters aren't sensible people. That statement shows your ignorance and lack of respect for the rights that so many men and women have died to protect. I really don't know whether to compare your statements of late to McCarthyism or Fascism. You are entitled to your opinion; but for the ideals of this country, that you claim to love so dearly, to hold true you must respect the opinions of others as well. I never once said you couldn't vote. That is, unfortunately, a right all people have no matter what their level of understanding is. Anyone who votes for Kerry is lacking sensibility in my opinion simply because of the lies and distortions he uses daily in his rhetoric demeaning Bush, who has been honest with the american people. I'm neither fascist nor socialist. and I don't like deliberate liars such as liberals are. It doesn't matter which one you name, they're all alike! I haven't met one lioberal yet who could tell the truth without altering it to suit their ends.
It's true, Rush makes a tremendous amout of money SPREADING THE TRUTH about liberals and what their goals are and identifying them for what they are. Liberals think they know a better way, but that's only a delusion they've convinced themselves of.
Kerry is another deluded liberal who can't stand on the truth so he lies. He would depend on the U.N. to tell him when, where, and how america should defend itself. That is a faltering idea as the U.N. can't defend itself and REFUSES TO DO SO. tHAT'S A BRIEF LOOK AT WHO kERRY IS. [/color]
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Post by RealistState on Mar 19, 2004 6:03:59 GMT -5
How do you feel about this...it was written shortly after the first Gulf War: Today, thank God, Kuwait is free. But turmoil in that tormented region of the world continues. Saddam's continued savagery has placed his regime outside the international order. We will not interfere in Iraq's civil war. Iraqi people must decide their own political future.
Looking out here at you and thinking of your families, let me comment a little further. We set our objectives. These objectives, sanctioned by international law, have been achieved. I made very clear that when our objectives were obtained that our troops would be coming home. And yes, we want the suffering of those refugees to stop, and in keeping with our nation's compkmtyolpion and concern, we are pkmtyolmively helping. But yes, I want our troops out of Iraq and back home as soon as possible.
Internal conflicts have been raging in Iraq for many years. And we're helping out, and we're going to continue to help these refugees. But I do not want one single soldier or airman shoved into a civil war in Iraq that's been going on for ages. And I'm not going to have that.
I know the coalition's historic effort destroyed Saddam's ability to undertake aggression against any neighbor. You did that job. But now the international community will further guarantee that Saddam's ability to threaten his neighbors is completely eliminated by destroying Iraq's weapons of pkmtyolm destruction.
Interesting, don't you think? In what sense? Please explain yourself. [/color][/quote] That shortly after the 1st Gulf War that it was recognized that we shouldn't get bogged down in what is essentially an Iraqi problem.
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Post by RealistState on Mar 19, 2004 6:09:24 GMT -5
I never once said you couldn't vote. That is, unfortunately, a right all people have no matter what their level of understanding is.
[/color][/quote] You would prefer that the right of voting be limited to a certain intellectual level? And how would you determine that?
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 6:21:54 GMT -5
You would prefer that the right of voting be limited to a certain intellectual level? And how would you determine that? There used to be testing. I believe the USA should go back to testing the knowledge of how government works according to the U.S.Constitution before one can vote. I also don't believe those who pay no taxes should be able to vote in matters of taxation. [/color]
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