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Post by AuntRonda on Mar 17, 2004 14:03:30 GMT -5
it was actually something my dad and i would talk about. for 13 years my grandma had fairily health and then her last 6 months were sheer agony. my dad -- her son-in-law - was pretty much a primary care giver. he went every morning before work - even in the snow and cold of winter to prepare breakfast and treat her leg (open and gangarous wounds). he'd go bacck at dinner if my mom couldn't. he would often run to change the tape on the TV or to adjust her in a comfortable position or if she fell or whatnot... toward the end of her time here she lived in my mom and dad's living roomn on a hospital bed. he actually worked with the hospice folks and created these weird "custom bandages" to help with her sores. no matter how hard we tried, bedsores were present constantly due to her system shutting down. we've talked at great detail about how he could do things (which i'm sure you know have to be done to/for a person which aren't fit to type) i mean she wasn't even HIS mom. he said it was a cross he had to bare - he saw it as a gift from God -- a special task that God put before him. God knew that my dad could do it and make things better for her. it also helped with the other things that my mom was taking care of which were also pretty stressful and often another elderly family member in need of care. but anyway, that's where the idea came from. look as it as a blessing. i believe that although a cross is painful and/or difficult it IS a gift. it's a way for God to work through us and a way for us to see just how strong He made us. I do what I can for him. At this point, he has Hospice nursing assistance 24/7. Before he became so ill, I would adjust him in his bed, and he always said anything I did for his comfort was "much better." He is at a point where he is sleeping most of the time. Right now, I mostly stand there holding his hand trying not to cry. I hope on some level he is aware I am there. :'(I just wish he would get better. Ronda I am hoping they will have the AC fixed soon. It's the only repair they have left to complete. It just needs freon. Then I can get to the nursing home. I place limited trust in our maintainence people here.
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Post by marysia on Mar 17, 2004 15:56:26 GMT -5
I do what I can for him. At this point, he has Hospice nursing assistance 24/7. Before he became so ill, I would adjust him in his bed, and he always said anything I did for his comfort was "much better." He is at a point where he is sleeping most of the time. Right now, I mostly stand there holding his hand trying not to cry. I hope on some level he is aware I am there. :'(I just wish he would get better. Ronda I am hoping they will have the AC fixed soon. It's the only repair they have left to complete. It just needs freon. Then I can get to the nursing home. I place limited trust in our maintainence people here. my hopes too for your AC and i'm sure he's aware even if he doesn't know... just know that once he is home, he will know all the love you showed him. i remember with my granddad i had the midnight "shift" at the hospital - we didn't leave him alone and he would call me by all sorts of peoples names, but after he died, i don't kow, i just knew he knew how much i loved him. it was weird but... i'm sure even whe you have tears, the warmth of his hand in yours - even at the stage he seems to be in and his hand probably isn't too warm - it's filled with warmth and love. God go with you!
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Post by genesda on Mar 18, 2004 6:21:14 GMT -5
You really do need to pay attention. A true sedavacanist does not accept the Vatican Council II which allows for Ecumenism and that salvation is available to ALL. I see. Since Vat2, God has changed His mind, right? After all, the popes claimed to be led by the holy spirit and that the Rcc could never err, so whuich is it? [/color] A true sedavacanist is considered to be a schismatic and is hence not speaking for the present state of the Roman Catholic Church. Why should the Rcc church "change" if it never errs? [/color]
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Post by genesda on Mar 18, 2004 6:26:34 GMT -5
i'm sorry you feel that way. i'm thankful that the problems and those issues were int he 1500's and not my time.
LOL! Just wait! i hate to burst your bubble but the reality is the Rcc is growing in their faith, not reverting. Really? Could you state some of that growth? They still resacrifice Jesus at every pkmtyolm. They still hold to pagan beliefs that many Protestants also hold dear. [/color] that's the wonderful thing about history - working to overcome and not make the same mistakes twice. Scripture says history will repeat itself. [/color] i'm very perplexed by the fact you seem to think you can judge (not in that way) people and issues of the past with today's mentality. that's foolish gene. Stating facts is not judging. [/color] you can not take the past and judge by today's standards. [/color] Why? God doesn't change, and neither does His word. [/color]
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Post by marysia on Mar 18, 2004 7:38:40 GMT -5
i'm sorry you feel that way. i'm thankful that the problems and those issues were int he 1500's and not my time.
LOL! Just wait! i hate to burst your bubble but the reality is the Rcc is growing in their faith, not reverting. Really? Could you state some of that growth? They still resacrifice Jesus at every pkmtyolm. [/color] [/b][/color][/quote] just as i harm Him every time i sin. Christ sacrificed Himself for me. yes, the Rcc remembers that and holds true to what He told at the last supper - to break the bread and share the cup in rememberance of Me. we do that. Rcc growth - i'll only bother with one. the past saw them saying you shouldn't read the bible - most people back then were too illeterate to even know how to read let alone rationalize what was written. now we are invited to bible studies, asked to question and offer thoughts, things of that naturte.
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Post by marysia on Mar 18, 2004 7:41:44 GMT -5
I do what I can for him. At this point, he has Hospice nursing assistance 24/7. Before he became so ill, I would adjust him in his bed, and he always said anything I did for his comfort was "much better." He is at a point where he is sleeping most of the time. Right now, I mostly stand there holding his hand trying not to cry. I hope on some level he is aware I am there. :'(I just wish he would get better. Ronda I am hoping they will have the AC fixed soon. It's the only repair they have left to complete. It just needs freon. Then I can get to the nursing home. I place limited trust in our maintainence people here. ronda -- go to ROmans 5:3-5... and not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; and patience, experience ad experience, hope: and hope maketh not ashamed because the love of God is shed abroad inour hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. read that last night and thought of you. blessings for a peace filled day.
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Post by genesda on Mar 18, 2004 9:38:03 GMT -5
just as i harm Him every time i sin. Christ sacrificed Himself for me. yes, the Rcc remembers that and holds true to what He told at the last supper - to break the bread and share the cup in rememberance of Me. we do that. The bible says Jesus died ONCE for sin, but Rome sacrifices Him anew at every pkmtyolm. [/color] Rcc growth - i'll only bother with one. the past saw them saying you shouldn't read the bible - most people back then were too illeterate to even know how to read let alone rationalize what was written. now we are invited to bible studies, asked to question and offer thoughts, things of that naturte. Yes, as long as you accept what you're told. Remember, if you don't believe that the wafer is the real body, soul and Divinity of Jesus, Rome would deny your participation in the communion service. [/color]
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Post by HomeAtLast on Mar 18, 2004 10:24:24 GMT -5
just as i harm Him every time i sin. Christ sacrificed Himself for me. yes, the Rcc remembers that and holds true to what He told at the last supper - to break the bread and share the cup in rememberance of Me. we do that. The bible says Jesus died ONCE for sin, but Rome sacrifices Him anew at every pkmtyolm. [/color] As Jesus told us to do in remembrance of him so that we would never forget how much he loved us that he would suffer and die for us.Rcc growth - i'll only bother with one. the past saw them saying you shouldn't read the bible - most people back then were too illeterate to even know how to read let alone rationalize what was written. now we are invited to bible studies, asked to question and offer thoughts, things of that naturte. Yes, as long as you accept what you're told. Remember, if you don't believe that the wafer is the real body, soul and Divinity of Jesus, Rome would deny your participation in the communion service. [/color][/quote] Why bother with communion if you do not believe that Jesus died for you?
Blessings, Ann
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Post by marysia on Mar 18, 2004 10:27:34 GMT -5
just as i harm Him every time i sin. Christ sacrificed Himself for me. yes, the Rcc remembers that and holds true to what He told at the last supper - to break the bread and share the cup in rememberance of Me. we do that. The bible says Jesus died ONCE for sin, but Rome sacrifices Him anew at every pkmtyolm. [/color] [/color][/quote] gene you're so clueless you're funny. however, in this instance not funny ha ha but funny sad. you sit and say - do not judge and i don't judge and here you type and preach about what you do not know. you could not even fathom the beauty of the pkmtyolm because you will not open your heart or even your mind. my goodness i deltetd the second part becuase what you wrote had nothing to do with what i'd written. you like to expound on only what you want, you're not comfortable actually ingesting information from outside your sda or own self. i'm sorry for that gene, i truly am. at the last supper Christ told His disciples to DO - that is an action, an activity, a command - TO DO this (breading bread, sharing the wine) in rememberence of Me. DO THIS -- action, command. ever sin i commit either in action or lack of action is a lash at Christ. ever time i follow my own will versus His, i lash again. every time i do against Him, i lash at Him. going to pkmtyolm renews my spirit. where it is DOne as Christ told -- do this in rememberence of Me.
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Post by genesda on Mar 18, 2004 10:49:48 GMT -5
gene you're so clueless you're funny. however, in this instance not funny ha ha but funny sad. you sit and say - do not judge and i don't judge and here you type and preach about what you do not know. you could not even fathom the beauty of the pkmtyolm because you will not open your heart or even your mind. my goodness i deltetd the second part becuase what you wrote had nothing to do with what i'd written. you like to expound on only what you want, you're not comfortable actually ingesting information from outside your sda or own self. i'm sorry for that gene, i truly am. at the last supper Christ told His disciples to DO - that is an action, an activity, a command - TO DO this (breading bread, sharing the wine) in rememberence of Me. DO THIS -- action, command. ever sin i commit either in action or lack of action is a lash at Christ. ever time i follow my own will versus His, i lash again. every time i do against Him, i lash at Him. going to pkmtyolm renews my spirit. where it is DOne as Christ told -- do this in rememberence of Me. Your whole paragraph didn't address what I wrote.
Jesus is resacrificed at every pkmtyolm. That's what the pkmtyolm is, an unbloody sacrifice. Jesus didn't say to resacrifice Him in rememberance of Him. You say I won't open my mind to the Rcc teachings, well, you won't open your mind to the teachings of the scriptures which is the only important writings on God that we have. [/color]
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Post by AuntRonda on Mar 18, 2004 11:31:14 GMT -5
ronda -- go to ROmans 5:3-5... and not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; and patience, experience ad experience, hope: and hope maketh not ashamed because the love of God is shed abroad inour hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. read that last night and thought of you. blessings for a peace filled day. Thanks, I needed that verse this morning. AC is fixed, and I am getting ready to head over to the nursing home. Ronda
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Post by HomeAtLast on Mar 18, 2004 12:11:46 GMT -5
gene you're so clueless you're funny. however, in this instance not funny ha ha but funny sad. you sit and say - do not judge and i don't judge and here you type and preach about what you do not know. you could not even fathom the beauty of the pkmtyolm because you will not open your heart or even your mind. my goodness i deltetd the second part becuase what you wrote had nothing to do with what i'd written. you like to expound on only what you want, you're not comfortable actually ingesting information from outside your sda or own self. i'm sorry for that gene, i truly am. at the last supper Christ told His disciples to DO - that is an action, an activity, a command - TO DO this (breading bread, sharing the wine) in rememberence of Me. DO THIS -- action, command. ever sin i commit either in action or lack of action is a lash at Christ. ever time i follow my own will versus His, i lash again. every time i do against Him, i lash at Him. going to pkmtyolm renews my spirit. where it is DOne as Christ told -- do this in rememberence of Me. Your whole paragraph didn't address what I wrote.
Jesus is resacrificed at every pkmtyolm. That's what the pkmtyolm is, an unbloody sacrifice. Jesus didn't say to resacrifice Him in rememberance of Him. You say I won't open my mind to the Rcc teachings, well, you won't open your mind to the teachings of the scriptures which is the only important writings on God that we have. [/color][/quote] gene, Actually I think that marysia addressed it quite nicely. We are saved by our stripes. He died for us all from complete and unconditional love, we celebrate the day of His resurrection. Yet, you seem to want to distance yourself from the sacrifice of love that He made for us all. Placing ourselves at the foot of the cross as much as possible reminds us that each time we sin His pain continues. What better way to face the consequences of our actions to prevent further pain for our beloved Savior. He asks us to do this in Scripture. Blessings, Ann
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Post by marysia on Mar 18, 2004 13:07:14 GMT -5
gene you're so clueless you're funny. however, in this instance not funny ha ha but funny sad. you sit and say - do not judge and i don't judge and here you type and preach about what you do not know. you could not even fathom the beauty of the pkmtyolm because you will not open your heart or even your mind. my goodness i deltetd the second part becuase what you wrote had nothing to do with what i'd written. you like to expound on only what you want, you're not comfortable actually ingesting information from outside your sda or own self. i'm sorry for that gene, i truly am. at the last supper Christ told His disciples to DO - that is an action, an activity, a command - TO DO this (breading bread, sharing the wine) in rememberence of Me. DO THIS -- action, command. ever sin i commit either in action or lack of action is a lash at Christ. ever time i follow my own will versus His, i lash again. every time i do against Him, i lash at Him. going to pkmtyolm renews my spirit. where it is DOne as Christ told -- do this in rememberence of Me. Your whole paragraph didn't address what I wrote. . [/color][/quote] you may want to check out a comprehension cpkmtyoll at the schools you say are so close. i replied directly to your comment : The bible says Jesus died ONCE for sin, but Rome sacrifices Him anew at every pkmtyolm. if there was anything else i wanted to comment upon i'd have left it in. since i did not, i was replying to what i choose. you see some things are not worth the time to comment upon, for when it falls on deaf ears and such -- i just shake it off and go on.
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Post by RealistState on Mar 18, 2004 22:14:46 GMT -5
You really do need to pay attention. A true sedavacanist does not accept the Vatican Council II which allows for Ecumenism and that salvation is available to ALL. I see. Since Vat2, God has changed His mind, right? After all, the popes claimed to be led by the holy spirit and that the Rcc could never err, so whuich is it? [/color] A true sedavacanist is considered to be a schismatic and is hence not speaking for the present state of the Roman Catholic Church. Why should the Rcc church "change" if it never errs? [/color][/quote] God does not err, but humans do...
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Post by genesda on Mar 19, 2004 6:05:15 GMT -5
Why bother with communion if you do not believe that Jesus died for you?
Blessings, Ann Your answer avoided my point of the resacrifice of Jesus at every pkmtyolm. Communion is remembering Him, not resacrificing Him every day. [/color]
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