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Post by heathen76 on Jul 30, 2003 13:49:45 GMT -5
That is sheer blasphemy, nothing else.
PIC, Bill [/color][/quote] Blasphemy is a belief that I do not hold. If it works for you to believe in it, then please feel free to do so. |
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Post by woodyblueeyes on Jul 30, 2003 14:00:48 GMT -5
By the way, it isn't a disease. It is of God just like everything else. Look past your fear and see homosexuals for what they are - fellow human beings.
Agreed, homosexuality is not a disease...it's sin. And agreed also, God does not look at homosexuals any differently than any other human being. He loves them dearly, but he does not love the sinful lifestyle that they partake of.
WOW...Heathen and I agree on something...albeit a little something.....!!! That's cool!
That's an improvement, even though a small one.
Woody
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 30, 2003 14:47:31 GMT -5
Will you hold to that when they determine that it is genetic? Of course I will. What? You think homosexuality is the first disease to be labeled genetic? |
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 30, 2003 14:49:23 GMT -5
Agreed, homosexuality is not a disease...it's sin. And agreed also, God does not look at homosexuals any differently than any other human being. He loves them dearly, but he does not love the sinful lifestyle that they partake of.
WOW...Heathen and I agree on something...albeit a little something.....!!! That's cool!
That's an improvement, even though a small one.
Woody
[/color][/quote]I think you'd better read what heathen said again. He said that homosexuality is OF GOD. Is that what you agree with? |
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Post by Kee on Jul 30, 2003 16:06:05 GMT -5
As for your experiences, I would be interested to hear what sort of area you grew up in that would discriminate against short white men. By the way, what is your definition of "short"? I have sympathies for anyone that is persecuted unfairly for any reason. It is fear that makes people nasty to one another. All negativity comes from fear. |
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Post by woodyblueeyes on Jul 30, 2003 16:11:23 GMT -5
I think you'd better read what heathen said again. He said that homosexuality is OF GOD. Is that what you agree with? Heathen said that homosexuals were human beings. I agreed on that matter. He also said that homosexuality was not a disease..of that I agree also. I'm sorry, I should have been a little more specific. But to set the record straight, No I do not believe homosexuality is of God...because nothing sinful or unrighteous can come from God. |
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Post by billbo1970 on Jul 30, 2003 16:34:36 GMT -5
Blasphemy is a belief that I do not hold. If it works for you to believe in it, then please feel free to do so.
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 30, 2003 17:53:46 GMT -5
I didn't say that a separate school for homosexuals was OK - I said I wasn't sure if it was the answer. As for your experiences, I would be interested to hear what sort of area you grew up in that would discriminate against short white men. By the way, what is your definition of "short"? I have sympathies for anyone that is persecuted unfairly for any reason. It is fear that makes people nasty to one another. All negativity comes from fear. I grew up in your average middle cpkmtyoll Southern Califonia suburban community. So what are you saying, that people discriminated against me because they are afraid of short white men. That's absurd. My definition of short is the same as Webster's, not tall. And frankly, I can tell from this discourse that it was people just like you to whom I am referring. |
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Post by heathen76 on Jul 30, 2003 23:03:56 GMT -5
If you didn't believe in gravity, you'd still be in for a big surprise if you walked off a cliff. Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
PIC, Bill [/color] [/quote] You are asking me to compare blasphemy to gravity? Gravity is experimentally provable, it can be quantified mathematically, it is a physical reality. Blasphemy is not any of these things. It is a belief. Just because it is mentioned in a book that you believe to be infallible does not make it so for me. As I said, if it is something that you wish to experience in your reality, feel free to do so. |
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Post by heathen76 on Jul 30, 2003 23:14:06 GMT -5
I grew up in your average middle cpkmtyoll Southern Califonia suburban community. So what are you saying, that people discriminated against me because they are afraid of short white men. That's absurd. My definition of short is the same as Webster's, not tall. And frankly, I can tell from this discourse that it was people just like you to whom I am referring. They weren't necessarily afraid of "short white men", but perhaps something you made them see in themselves that they didn't like. People that dislike others often see something in others that reminds them of something that they dislike or fear about themselves. They then lash out at the victim to make themselves feel better about themselves. As far as the short versus tall thing, you still haven't given me an answer. This is a matter of perception. For you, is a tall person someone over 5'? 6'? What does "short" mean to you? As far as "people just like" me, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you don't get me all "riled up" or angry because you think that you are refuting my posts. I think of you as a prime example of someone that clings to "old paradigm" ideas that will soon be history. I'm sorry that you have chosen to do so, but it is your choice what you choose to experience in life. Maybe you will choose something differently the next time. |
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Post by heathen76 on Jul 30, 2003 23:21:12 GMT -5
Heathen said that homosexuals were human beings. I agreed on that matter. He also said that homosexuality was not a disease..of that I agree also. I'm sorry, I should have been a little more specific. But to set the record straight, No I do not believe homosexuality is of God...because nothing sinful or unrighteous can come from God. Hey woody! Yes, I took your meaning and I agree with what you said. We agreed on the points that you said we agreed on.  |
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 31, 2003 0:38:59 GMT -5
You are asking me to compare blasphemy to gravity? Gravity is experimentally provable, it can be quantified mathematically, it is a physical reality. Blasphemy is not any of these things. It is a belief. Just because it is mentioned in a book that you believe to be infallible does not make it so for me. As I said, if it is something that you wish to experience in your reality, feel free to do so. Actually, blasphemy is an action, not a belief. |
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 31, 2003 0:43:23 GMT -5
They weren't necessarily afraid of "short white men", but perhaps something you made them see in themselves that they didn't like. People that dislike others often see something in others that reminds them of something that they dislike or fear about themselves. They then lash out at the victim to make themselves feel better about themselves. As far as the short versus tall thing, you still haven't given me an answer. This is a matter of perception. For you, is a tall person someone over 5'? 6'? What does "short" mean to you? As far as "people just like" me, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you don't get me all "riled up" or angry because you think that you are refuting my posts. I think of you as a prime example of someone that clings to "old paradigm" ideas that will soon be history. I'm sorry that you have chosen to do so, but it is your choice what you choose to experience in life. Maybe you will choose something differently the next time. OKAY, so now people persecute others because they are reminded of themselves. I take it then that you are recanting your previous statement: "It is fear that makes people nasty to one another. All negativity comes from fear". And I have no idea what you mean that I don't rile you up. I have no recollection of insinuating that I do. |
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Post by ewpkmtyols on Jul 31, 2003 0:44:08 GMT -5
I don’t know anyone that would drive around trying to find someone that could look Danny DeVito in the eye on his level just to beat them up. However I did meet someone that claimed he and two of his friends would drive around trying to find gay men just to beat them up. Fort Benning in the 50’s I met a Southern boy from Macon and he told a story about the time he and his friends were driving around looking for homosexuals to beat up. They found this gay in a bar took him out in the alley to beat on and found it to be a real task. He said the guy said, if there one thing I like better then _____ ____ it’s fighting. The Serg., yes he was a Sergeant, said with a grin on his face boy did he put up a fight. The sad thing about it was they thought it was O.K. after all the ones they beat on were gay.
Give them their high school until the rest of us can learn that it’s NOT O.K..
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Post by Blemonds on Jul 31, 2003 0:51:38 GMT -5
I don’t know anyone that would drive around trying to find someone that could look Danny DeVito in the eye on his level just to beat them up. However I did meet someone that claimed he and two of his friends would drive around trying to find gay men just to beat them up. Fort Benning in the 50’s I met a Southern boy from Macon and he told a story about the time he and his friends were driving around looking for homosexuals to beat up. They found this gay in a bar took him out in the alley to beat on and found it to be a real task. He said the guy said, if there one thing I like better then _____ ____ it’s fighting. The Serg., yes he was a Sergeant, said with a grin on his face boy did he put up a fight. The sad thing about it was they thought it was O.K. after all the ones they beat on were gay. Give them their high school until the rest of us can learn that it’s NOT O.K.. Well, I can't tell you how many times I had to beat up the 2nd shortest guy in school just to be able to survive. I started an organization to combat staturephobia and staturephobes like you!! |
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