All Christians are moronic

[marysia]

oh man - more buckeyes?!?!? you posionious little nuts

M go BLUE!

[heathen76]

marysia said:

oh man - more buckeyes?!?!? you posionious little nuts

M go BLUE!

Arrrrggghhhh! Another one of YOU in my midst! GO BUCKS!!

[heathen76]

christian said:

heathen76 said:

You must be a fantastic dodgeball player.



For the record - I've already answered your question several times. You have yet to answer mine. Care to try again?

I don't need to.

Let's be honest here. You don't WANT to. The answer to this question would unravel your argument tactics.

[christian]

heathen76 said:

christian said:

I don't need to.

Let's be honest here. You don't WANT to. The answer to this question would unravel your argument tactics.

[christian]

sjudy said:

I can't think of anything more moronic than someone claiming to be God, yet not being able to prove it.

Andy

Andy, to those who don't believe in the Christian god of the bible, that is EXACTLY what Jesus did also. Or more rather, his later followers have claimed for him, because he never personally made the claim.

Actually, Jesus Christ did claim to be God. In at least one of the Gospels, He is mentioned as having boldly declared in public: "Before Abraham, I AM ". Abraham lived many centuries before the birth of Christ, and is mentioned in Genesis. Jesus performed many miracles, including raising Lazarus from the dead, delivering a boy from a spirit of epilepsy, and turning water into wine at the wedding in Cana; the manner of His death on a cross, and His spiritual and physical resurrection from the dead - all these events were witnessed by Matthew, Mark, Luke & John, and many others, and powerfully testify to the fact that He is God. It's all there in the Gospels.

Shalom,
Andy

[Pietro]

christian said:

So you now accept that you're not God, Heathen?

Let me jump in with a theory:

Even Christians admit that nothing can exist without God. We live and move and have our being in God. Apart from God there is nothing. God is the One Who Is. There is no other being that exists along side God. We all are totally dependent on God for our existence. God dwells in each of us or we would not be able to exist. All creation is intimately connected to God, penetrated by God. God is part of who and what we are. Does that mean that we know everything or can do anything? No. Because we are not the totality of God. We are like fingernail clippings that have the capacity to realize our inner unity with God that already exists. Unfortunately that is a long difficult journey that very few actually make. Jesus didn't have to make it at all. That's where he came from, that inner realization of his spirit being One with the Father even as his body was as separate as yours and mine.

I think of it like the Trinity. God is both three and one not either three or one. Jesus is both fully God and Fully human, not either God or human. He calls us to realize that potential with Him, to realize that we are one with Him and the Father in the Spirit. Unless we realize that and accept it we are functionally cut off even though we cannot ever be completely cut off or else we would cease to exist.

Practically speaking we we cannot say that we are God because as long as we speak from our ego and personal identity we are firmly planted in our human separateness. maybe in deep prayer, contemplation, mystic union we begin to loosen that ego and experience the deeper unity.