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Post by christianlady on Sept 15, 2005 13:33:10 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that burning sulfur raining down was a natural disaster. It is not something I have ever heard of. Sounds to me like something that does not occur naturally and would be without a doubt God's doing. My point excatly- It wasn't it came down from the heavens sent my God God thinks all sin is evil, so YES my example is " sin " gramblining, forincation, homosexaul acts,drunkeness, self gratification, drugs need I go on? Why do you think people go to Mardi Gras and such places? Believe me its not to worship God. Deuteronomy 29:19 When such a person hears the words of this oath, he invokes a blessing on himself and therefore thinks, "I will be safe, even though I persist in going my own way." This will bring disaster on the watered land as well as the dry. Deuteronomy 31:21 And when many disasters and difficulties come upon them, this song will testify against them, because it will not be forgotten by their descendants. I know what they are disposed to do, even before I bring them into the land I promised them on oath." Matthew 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places who do you think is in control of Nature !?!?!/ THATS RIGHT GOD, and only God.
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Post by christianlady on Sept 15, 2005 13:59:23 GMT -5
Please, Andy, since you are so certain God sent a warning... tell us what it was. I am not Andy but...... I would also like to answer this- " to stop sinning and repent " That is what God is telling mankind. We are to serve Him. He isn't suppose to serve us, we are to do His WILL. God is a Loving God, and many more attributes, but it seems today that everyone wants to forget or to ignore that God also tells us that He, God, is a Vengeful God, Taking Vengeance on those who will not obey Him, or who hate Him. God told Adam right from the start that Adam had better do it God's way, or Else, when God told Adam to Not Eat from THAT Tree, or Else, Adam would die if Adam did eat of it. Adam disobeyed God and God kept His word and carried out His judgment on Adam. If we die in our sins without accepting Christ as Savior, we go to await judgment in a place called Hell: Hell is similar to your local county jail except there is no bail set, no bond posted. To learn more of what Hell is like, read Luke 16 - the story of the rich man and Lazarus. There will be a trial, there will be judgment and sentencing will be pkmtyolped immediately. You will stand before the Great Judge and all of your "good" deeds and your sins (even those you thought were secret) will be judged. Read Revelation 20:11-15. The results of each and every trial held on that day are this: Revelation 21:8 (NKJV) "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Revelation 20:15 "And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire." It's where we spend eternity if we die in our sins. Salvation through Jesus Christ is the ONLY means of escape. And last time I looked God was and still is " In Control Of Everything He Created "So this world better take notice and change, and stop living in sin and repent and serve God. We heap what we sow. May God Have Mercy On All Of Us PS. Just Curious, but what controls a natural disaster, to you if not GOD ?
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Post by heathen76 on Sept 15, 2005 14:17:10 GMT -5
Please, Andy, since you are so certain God sent a warning... tell us what it was. Why can't a natural disaster just be a natural disaster? Why do we have to put meaning into it. It happened, God will use it for good as He tells us He will. But why does it have to be God's punishment? I imagine the warning went something like this: "Turn against my people, Israel, by forcing them out of their own homes in Gaza, which is a part of the land that I have given them, and don't repent, and carry on sinning as it suits you, and you'll reap the consequences." Hurricane Katrina was only the beginning. God Bless, Andy. Where was that? Did God take out an ad in the paper? Or was it on the news? An interview?
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Post by marysia on Sept 15, 2005 14:34:32 GMT -5
Please, Andy, since you are so certain God sent a warning... tell us what it was. I am not Andy but...... I would also like to answer this- " to stop sinning and repent " That is what God is telling mankind. We are to serve Him. He isn't suppose to serve us, we are to do His WILL. actually, when reading the Old Testament when many of the judgements were sent out the warning from God prior to the devestation is much more blatant. even in Revelations - it will not just "happen" there will be warnings. In one case it will "sound like a thunder" however you will know it as the beast saying Come to me. hurricanes have hit areas that are not (as you say) evil like s&g. my parents little town was/is NOTHING like that - it's old school family for the most part - yet they were hit hard by 2 hurricanes last year. there are town more "sinful" than NO and yet they are spared?! the logic applied just doesn't make sense. God is not often "subtle" in regards to His people.
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Post by christianlady on Sept 15, 2005 14:50:17 GMT -5
Job 37:15
15 Do you know how God controls the clouds and makes his lightning flash?
Amos 4:7
7 "I also withheld rain from you when the harvest was still three months away. I sent rain on one town, but withheld it from another. One field had rain; another had none and dried up.
Point is God is in control.
God Bless
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Post by christianlady on Sept 15, 2005 15:23:29 GMT -5
We are all One. Ours is not the only way, just another way. heathen76 hi what is the other way you speak of here? And how are we all one? please explain God Bless
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Post by Shirley on Sept 15, 2005 15:33:08 GMT -5
We are all One. Ours is not the only way, just another way. heathen76 hi what is the other way you speak of here? And how are we all one? please explain God Bless I'm not Heathen76, but.. ;D Ok..this is getting silly, we are all answering for each other! Try reading this thread: Fear and FundamentalismTowards the end..last couple of pages should answer alot of questions..
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Post by Shirley on Sept 15, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
I was reading somewhere..not sure if it was here or another board, but I think it was another board that there is no more "God's chosen people, Israel." According to the new testament, the "church" is now Israel..and "Christians" are the chosen people.
Does it not say that there is no more Greek or Jew?
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Post by Shirley on Sept 15, 2005 16:17:43 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that burning sulfur raining down was a natural disaster. It is not something I have ever heard of. Sounds to me like something that does not occur naturally and would be without a doubt God's doing. Also, since you see New Orleans as another sin city, another Sodom and Gomorrah, you think God does/should? Could you give examples of how you see the cities as similar? I don't know a whole lot about New Orleans... just the Mardi Gras parade. So you think that God only punishes people with fire and sulphur? During Noah's time He drowned virtually every human being on this Earth apart from Noah and his family. That was water, not sulphur. It came from the clouds and the underground springs. God Bless, Andy. Uhm, Andy? The flood thing? Covering the whole earth? That is not literal..it never happened. Not on a worldwide scale. There may have been a local flood, and most likely was. In fact, there were many "local" floods, but remember the "world" at that time was a very small place.
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Post by heathen76 on Sept 15, 2005 16:23:53 GMT -5
We are all One. Ours is not the only way, just another way. heathen76 hi what is the other way you speak of here? And how are we all one? please explain God Bless Shirley pointed you in the right direction for the "We are all One" thing, but as for the other part, I am talking about religions. If we could all (every human) say with reference to our various belief systems, "Ours in not the only way, just another way.", then we would pretty much have peace on earth overnight.
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Post by marysia on Sept 15, 2005 17:21:24 GMT -5
Job 37:15 15 Do you know how God controls the clouds and makes his lightning flash? Amos 4:7 7 "I also withheld rain from you when the harvest was still three months away. I sent rain on one town, but withheld it from another. One field had rain; another had none and dried up. Point is God is in control. God Bless yes however -- the difference is those were not complete devestation from the Wrath of God. that is the difference.
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Post by babysis on Sept 15, 2005 17:34:40 GMT -5
So He spoke this for people to hear? He sent them letters? What? How as this message delivered? And surely, with all the people who were able to get out of the hurricane's path, we would have heard one person talking about God sending a warning. The media puts these people on as "crazy people". And why would God send destruction that took weeks, DAYS to reach it's target. Why was Florida hit?
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Post by Shirley on Sept 15, 2005 18:05:45 GMT -5
Florida was hit cuz that's where Heathen and TD live ;D Just kidding guys!
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Post by babysis on Sept 15, 2005 21:15:26 GMT -5
Hey! TD is a Christian, he would have been warned a head of time!
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Post by babysis on Sept 15, 2005 21:17:11 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that burning sulfur raining down was a natural disaster. It is not something I have ever heard of. Sounds to me like something that does not occur naturally and would be without a doubt God's doing. My point excatly- It wasn't it came down from the heavens sent my God God thinks all sin is evil, so YES my example is " sin " gramblining, forincation, homosexaul acts,drunkeness, self gratification, drugs need I go on? Why do you think people go to Mardi Gras and such places? Believe me its not to worship God. Deuteronomy 29:19 When such a person hears the words of this oath, he invokes a blessing on himself and therefore thinks, "I will be safe, even though I persist in going my own way." This will bring disaster on the watered land as well as the dry. Deuteronomy 31:21 And when many disasters and difficulties come upon them, this song will testify against them, because it will not be forgotten by their descendants. I know what they are disposed to do, even before I bring them into the land I promised them on oath." Matthew 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places who do you think is in control of Nature !?!?!/ THATS RIGHT GOD, and only God. There are so many cities FAR WORSE than NO, I mean, Las Vegas is CALLED SIN CITY!!! Why haven't they had a devastating blow? It just doesn't add up. I TOTALLY believe that it COULD have been God's judgement, I just don't think it was. It's just a natural disaster.
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